<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856</id><updated>2011-07-28T20:50:42.401-07:00</updated><category term='`'/><title type='text'>Memory Research Seminar 2007</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>EBJ</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01926427028842359306</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>55</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-5170728845765728282</id><published>2007-12-02T18:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-02T18:40:04.674-08:00</updated><title type='text'>dec 5th blog post</title><content type='html'>On finishing Bourtchouladze's book i thought about the research on CREB and the idea of pharmaceutical applications for the information she and others have discovered.  To me, her final notes sounded rather pessimistic for what would happen in the near future as a greater understanding of genes and memory is cultivated.  In a certain degree, it made me think over the semester and everything i had learned about memory and how people treat and value memory.  From what people describe as the horror of Alzheimers disease and the pain of amnesia it seems probable that any drug that could boost memory would be coveted by normal/healthy people to the same extent if not more that by sick/amnesiac people.  Bourtchouladze herself made an interesting comment that points to this on p162 "They can learn, and they can even keep in mind the learnt task for an hour or so.  but check on their memory five or six hours later, or the next day, and you will be surprised by their stupidity - they have no clue about the task whatsoever."  In her own words she describes the difficulty of remembering and the creatures ignorance, as "stupidity".  For someone who has spent so much time researching memory to have this kind of outlook tells me that regular people would jump on any memory drug.  In fact, things like ginkgo biloba  and ginseng have a regular market in America today for the reason that they were supposed to help concentration and memory.  I even remember my mother talking to me about it when it first became popular, the twinkle in her eye when she was looking for it in small asian stores and wanted to pick up a years supply.  It seems to me memory is a controversial issue because so many people want more of it, whether they have a generally good memory, or an obviously bad one.  It also seems like it does not matter what type of job they work either, so that a scientist and a painter are both likely to desire greater memories.  It seems that part of what makes memory so seductive is that it is understood as being synonymous with knowledge or wisdom.  So having a better memory is good for remembering lists but also for not making the same mistake twice, or not forgetting a spouses birthday etc.  This seems flawed given what i have learned in the class.  How i understand it, the ability to remember does increase someones ability to associate.  So if a someone with an exceptional memory cannot recognize the same dog from different angles, then their uncanny memory is not likely going to give them the wisdom to see patterns self destructive patterns of behavior in themselves or a connection between the kind of people they are attracted to and spousal abuse.  This could easily extend to something like chess, because even if you can remember every single move you and your opponent have made, does not mean that you can predict what their next move will be.  It is simply not enough to have remembered the details, things need to be analyzed, scrutinize and deducted.  It seems to me that if memory enhancing drugs are produced any time soon the mad dash of healthy people to buy them legally or illegally is inevitable, and unfortunately ignorant.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-5170728845765728282?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/5170728845765728282/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=5170728845765728282' title='43 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5170728845765728282'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5170728845765728282'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/12/dec-5th-blog-post.html' title='dec 5th blog post'/><author><name>geoffrey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00413045543815992231</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>43</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-954305871172050816</id><published>2007-11-27T20:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-27T20:38:16.737-08:00</updated><title type='text'>November 28, Emotions and memory</title><content type='html'>It is also interesting to me that Bourtchouladze addressed the issue of fear within a community, and how it affects the individuals involved. A friend of mine is from an area of New York that’s been deemed bad and gang-filled. She gets embarrassed when she admits that she’s from a place that’s often horribly portrayed in movies. But she swears that it’s “not all like that”. And often defends her neighborhood. So it’s interesting to read about the opposite effect, or another one, in which the community also believes in these ideas and images conveyed to them. Once fear is placed in a community, it grows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was also interested in Bourtchouladze’s talk of emotional memory. Not particularly in relation to the amygdala, but in the events that cause a strong emotional state, thereby becoming engrained in our memory. I’m finding this relatable to the dance world specifically when we are audience members. As a freshman in the dance department, one of the biggest things they teach us is how to talk about dance, how to verbalize a kinesthetic experience, or how to speak to the emotions brought up by this experience as well. How do we react as an audience member as well as a performer? Thinking back to the many dance reviews we were forced to read and analyze, the most vivid descriptions were those that caused a strong emotional reaction. This is true as an audience member as well as a dancer onstage and off. As an audience member, we remember what we connect with; a certain part of the dance, an expression, and a movement we were drawn to. As a dancer, we remember the combinations we like, the ones that make us happy, and the ones we can attach an emotion or story to. In this sense, I think Bourtchouladze is right, the stronger the emotional reaction, the more likely we are to remember. The more we read about emotions and memory, the more relevant the connection between the two become.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-954305871172050816?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/954305871172050816/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=954305871172050816' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/954305871172050816'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/954305871172050816'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/november-28-emotions-and-memory.html' title='November 28, Emotions and memory'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6312279745431456475</id><published>2007-11-27T00:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-27T00:32:52.743-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Emotionality and Identity</title><content type='html'>Bourtchouladze addresses fear conditioning relative to context in a very tangible manner, introducing this concept based on the transformation of violence and retained level of fear in Washington Heights. I found this particularly accessible because a close friend of mine was recently provoked to move from this specific area after being mugged in her own apartment building. She spoke so highly of the neighborhood in prior years, remarking on affordability as well as the generally friendly attitudes of local residents. However, after this violent encounter, her mentality has shifted completely, and it is apparent that a certain and deep level of fear has been established. One can imagine how detrimental this can be to an individual’s everyday activity, not only mentally but physically. It confines her to remaining indoors at night, carrying mace for some reassurance of protection, and refusing to walk with valuable items alone. In other words, it restricts a person to become even more judgmental and cautious because there is heightened sensitivity to the external world. It seems that fear permeates or affects in some manner all levels of the Freudian structural theory, including the id, the ego, and the superego.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       When Bourtchouladze discussed the amygdala as a region of the brain associated with emotional functioning and memory, one question was raised (though perhaps a bit naïve but I’ll ask nonetheless): In general, do women have a more highly developed amygdala than men? I realize this is based on the assumption and typical representation of women as sensitive or overly emotional, and men as more passive or indifferent, but I am still curious. I thought state-dependent memory was also a very interesting concept, and it concerns many of the ideas I’m addressing in my conference project examining the emotionality of autobiographical memory in relation to music. “Events that we learn in one emotional state may be remembered better when we revert to the state we were in during the original experience” (91). It made a lot of sense that the “personal significance of a flashbulb event—consequentiality—has a crucial role in the immunity of the memory for the event” (97); it seems that this concept in itself is what makes flashbulb events so vivid and perhaps integral to one’s sense of self. It seems that we psychoanalyze these events to the extent that they become engrained in our minds, and the way that we relay them to people can develop such regularity even though actual knowledge of the event can be perceived as esoteric and perhaps only relatable to a certain degree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;            Kandel’s “In Search of Memory” details autobiographical accounts interwoven with historical context, balancing both personal and public memory and highlighting their interconnectedness. He characterized the matter at hand quite succinctly by identifying how neuroscience has tried to reveal the “ultimate mystery: how each person’s brain creates the consciousness of a unique self and the sense of free will” (11). This emphasizes the ongoing struggle to discover the mechanics of individuality—what a person considers specific—while simultaneously explaining personal freedom, something that is considered fundamental to the specific. I thought that Kandel’s inclusion of personal anecdotes made this book comprehensible; he didn’t limit the information presented to a purely academic discussion of psychology. Relocalization and neuroplasticity are truly remarkable phenomena; to think that the brain is so resilient in that neural pathways are capable of compensating for sensory, motor and cognitive functions.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6312279745431456475?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6312279745431456475/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6312279745431456475' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6312279745431456475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6312279745431456475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/emotionality-and-identity.html' title='Emotionality and Identity'/><author><name>Nadia</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12674101153868086233</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2743401395344531319</id><published>2007-11-26T05:29:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-26T13:41:03.370-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Emotional States and Memory</title><content type='html'>Although it is only briefly mentioned in Bourtcholadze, I found the connection of emotional states to memory to be extremely intriguing and wished that it would have been discussed more in depth. On page 92 she briefly discusses an experiment in manic-depressive patients where the quantity of memory recalled is directly linked to a change in emotional state.  I found it interesting that the patients who experienced the most major mood swings were able to recall the least. I do understand the rareness that such a violent swing will occur during the time allowed for the experiment, but I find that the simple idea of mood-dependent retrieval important when discussing mental disorders and wish that Bourtcholadze had taken more time to concentrate on this idea, instead of giving me just a paragraph. She does continue on to discuss how post-traumatic stress disorder effects recall of certain events, but I find a distinct separation between these two topics. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As others have mentioned before in previous readings, I too find the idea of synaesthesia incredibly fascinating. However, I found it strange that Bourtcholadze generalized in saying that synaestheics have difficulty in math when I think of my two friends who are synaestheics, who actually have more trouble with literature based work than something as concrete as math. These might be rare cases, but I’m wondering if Bourtcholadze over generalized in her statement. I think I take issue with this because she does not back up her brief statement with any real studies, so I find room to question. (pg. 109) She does make a logical conclusion to assume that synaestheics would have more ease with artistic expression than math, but where is her proof? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the end of chapter 5, Bourtcholadze finally addresses an issue I've had with the study of both amnesiacs and people with extraordinary memory, proposing that understanding how these anomalies arise will help in greater understanding of how memory works and the different pathways it might take. I feel that in the studies of amnesiacs, the researchers often lose sight of the big picture, at least when they write up their findings. I found it refreshing to have these ideas stated outright instead of just implied.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2743401395344531319?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2743401395344531319/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2743401395344531319' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2743401395344531319'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2743401395344531319'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/emotional-states-and-memory.html' title='Emotional States and Memory'/><author><name>Julia Petre</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12288619579290965932</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8220404359477344359</id><published>2007-11-25T18:47:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-25T18:47:56.188-08:00</updated><title type='text'>November 28 Blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Eric Kandel does an excellent job of detailing the development of the science of neurobiology in his book &lt;i style=""&gt;In Search of Memory: The Emergence of a New Science of Mind&lt;/i&gt; while simultaneously giving an account of his own maturation as a scientist, especially concerning his interest in the science of memory. I was particularly impressed with the earliest steps that were taken to gain an understanding of neural science and was astonished as I read that these scientists were able to hypothesize such complex and detailed mechanisms of nerves, synapses, and impulses with such a limited foundation of knowledge. Though some of the conclusions seemed somewhat logical, such as Cajal’s interpretation of the shape of nerve cells by studying infant animals and using a staining method, other conclusion seemed to be more coincidental. For example, it states further that Cajal inferred that neurons interact through a synapse, in which the axon of one neuron communicates with the dendrites of another. Because it was not detailed in the book, I wonder how Cajal was able to determine this; considering that microscopy was not as well developed, I am curious as to which scientific methods, if any, he used, or if it was merely a “leap of imagination” as Kandel stated on the prior page. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;I was also particularly interested in Bourtchouladze’s discussion of the amygdala being involved in emotionally related and emotionally explicit memory. On page 85, he describes a study in which patients with no brain damage, brain damage to the amygdala, brain damage to the hippocampus, and brain damage to both we analyzed in terms of recall and emotional conditioning. Patients with hippocampus damage had no recall but showed normal emotional conditioning, patients with amygdala damage showed accurate recall but no emotional conditioning, and patients with damage to both showed neither. Bourtchouladze comments on the importance of this finding, stating that the results “clearly demonstrate that the amygdala is indispensable for fear condition” and that “they illustrate the double dissociation between emotional and declarative aspects of memory.” While reading this, I thought about reading we had done in previous weeks concerning emotional memories and their higher recall, as compared with non-emotional memories, and I couldn’t help but assume that the amygdala is the key to this. I was also intrigued by the idea of emotional conditioning, which was discussed both in this book and in Kandel’s book, and wondered how a conditioned stimulus is represented within the brain in comparison with an unconditioned stimulus. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;After such learning occurs, some sort of memory consolidation must occur to transform it into long-term memory. In Kandel’s discussion of the biological basis of the process, which supported the idea that the transformations necessary for learning and memory occur in the synapses rather than in the variety of cell, he discusses the idea of the number of synaptic terminals and active synapses changes. Specifically, he states that long-term sensitization results in a doubling in the number of synaptic terminals and an increase from 40% to 60% of active synapses, and when the memory fades, the numbers drop again. While this concept makes sense in terms of the words sensitization and habituation, I wondered what role the pruning of neurons and synapses played in the equation. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8220404359477344359?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8220404359477344359/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8220404359477344359' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8220404359477344359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8220404359477344359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/november-28-blog.html' title='November 28 Blog'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8310127645509526821</id><published>2007-11-25T15:09:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-25T15:09:31.429-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Habituation and Post Traumatic Memory Alterations</title><content type='html'>In the book, In Search Of Memory, Kandel discusses methods of Habituation, Sensitization, and Conditioning (pg 167).  Habituation is when a subject is exposed to a stimulus so repeatedly and consistently that the subject grows accustomed to the stimulus and eventually begins to ignore it. This is something that we do many times throughout our lives. An example of how habituation to stimuli in our environment that might otherwise seem threatening can be seen through a wild animal’s reaction to a car opposed to a dog’s reaction to a car. Kandel writes about habituation that it “eliminates inappropriate or exaggerated defensive responses.” The dog no longer responds defensively to a speeding car, or in a large city, maybe even to a car horn which it encounters countless times a day. To habituation to something means to classify it as mundane and unworthy of notability. We are habituated to every rustle of the leaves that doesn’t seem abnormal. Without habituation we would be constantly unable to distinguish the important from the unimportant stimuli. Our reactions might commonly be inappropriately reactionary. We would live in a constant state of discomfort. Through habituation we achieve a level of stability in our world of expectations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though this stability and comfort we have learned to be shocked by what is unpredictable and new. If a situation arises which is extremely shocking and negative our system may be so effected by it that our memories and mindset may be altered as a result. This can be seen with post traumatic stress symptoms, discussed in Bourtchouldaze. She writes that traumatic memories so alter the way our memory records that they are extremely visual and they force other memories to be not recorded, such as route daily events (pg 101). The idea that someone’s memory can not only be amplified for a specific period of time, but that they way they remember is actually altered (made more visual) is really interesting to me. But even after reading about this phenomenon in both Schacter and Bourtchouldaze, I still wonder why exactly this occurs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Furthermore, with regards to Kandel’s discussion of habituation, I started wondering if it is possible to be fully habituation to something that may otherwise cause symptoms of post traumatic stress. If someone expects a bad situation- if what would normally be classified as a traumatic event is part of someone’s world of expectations- then wouldn’t it seem that they shouldn’t exhibit post traumatic stress memory alterations? If a dog can become habituated to a car-horn over a period of time, can people be habituated to war or murder or something equally shocking? People seem to make the argument in the affirmative when they talk about desensitization and video games and America’s youth of today. But what about with actual events in people’s lives?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8310127645509526821?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8310127645509526821/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8310127645509526821' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8310127645509526821'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8310127645509526821'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/habituation-and-post-traumatic-memory.html' title='Habituation and Post Traumatic Memory Alterations'/><author><name>Catie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hH19f5LMp7w/Sc-g_5PBo8I/AAAAAAAAAHU/t3ynodB_XMg/S220/09790010.JPG'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-188457865201502672</id><published>2007-11-13T17:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-13T17:54:22.042-08:00</updated><title type='text'>November 14th Blog</title><content type='html'>I was particularly interested in the section of the reading (which I believe was in Schacter) that discussed the idea that memories can be inaccurate, either because they were transformed over time or because they have varied from their original and true form. In the first instance, he gave an example of a girl who was traumatized by the memory of having her clitoris removed only to discover that it never actually happened and, in the second instance, gives an example of a man who thought his wife was present when he learned certain information even though she wasn’t. This made me wonder what is necessary to create such a false memory, particularly how rumination can become so powerful that it creates such a memory. I was also interested in the role the amygdala plays in this process. A study mentioned in the book showed that stress hormones can enhance memory, and I wonder if the stress that is induced during rumination is powerful enough to cause the brain to “remember” the thought as if it were real.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-188457865201502672?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/188457865201502672/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=188457865201502672' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/188457865201502672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/188457865201502672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/november-14th-blog.html' title='November 14th Blog'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-5900289454052143710</id><published>2007-11-12T19:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-12T19:04:11.880-08:00</updated><title type='text'>November 14 Post</title><content type='html'>Like Bailey, I was interested in Schacter’s “flashbulb memories” and how they tied in with some of the ideas in Pillemer’s chapters. Although it seems obvious, Pillemer is right (in my opinion) when he says that the stronger the emotions, the more vivid the memory. Even if the emotions were not your own, external displays of emotion have an affect on us, whether we realize it or not. This is probably true for someone like Bailey, who was not directly affected by the death of Princess Diana, but in watching others become affected, or have an emotional reaction, was actually affected. I remember where I was when I found out about Princess Diana as well. But more then that, I remember the news footage of people mourning and all of the memorials shown. I remember a friend’s memory of driving on the same road where Princess Diana’s car crash took place. I remember her memory because it was so vivid and because it was personal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pillemer is also right when he talks about personal memories having a greater impact as well simply because they are personal and true. It makes me wonder about dreams as well. Pillemer says that fabricated stories generally do not have a strong impact. I wonder if, because we know our dreams aren’t real, we lose some of the details and the vividness of them?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-5900289454052143710?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/5900289454052143710/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=5900289454052143710' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5900289454052143710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5900289454052143710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/november-14-post.html' title='November 14 Post'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6161002581408993450</id><published>2007-11-12T17:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-12T17:28:55.694-08:00</updated><title type='text'>There are 22 bones in the head</title><content type='html'>In second grade my father, a family doctor, would come in one day a month to help teach our heath curriculum. We covered such subjects as oral hygiene and nutrition, nothing our teacher wasn’t more than capable of explaining, but he did add some color. His first day he came in, dressed in a suit, looking like a dad, introduced himself, and proceeded to jump around the room yelling, “there are twenty two bones in the head!” he must have said it 20 times while jumping on tables and desks and then calmly returned to the front of the class and told us that we would never forget that there are twenty two bones in the head for the rest of our lives. At the beginning of each subsequent visit he would ask the class how many bones in the head there were, and we would always answer correctly. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In light of this week’s readings I understand more than ever why I can understand why it is that to this day I run into classmates I haven’t seen in years who say, “Hey, twenty two bones in the head.” The initial “flashlight” memory obviously takes most of the credit, but I’m sure that the longevity of the accuracy of the correct number has a lot to do with the repeated reminders over the course of an entire school year. I’ve always wondered who out of that class still remembers that fact, and further, how they remember the event during which they were informed. I have a feeling that out of all of them I remember the actual incident best because of its personal significance. Eight year olds usually aren’t embarrassed by their parents yet, but that day I was. It is still one of my clearest memories from that time in my life. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To go in a totally different direction, I’d like to mention the other section of information in this week’s texts that most got me thinking. Pillemer discusses the differences between what and how males and females remember. In his comparison between how men and women learn I found that many of the practices associated with female learning are ones practiced at this school. Discussion and openness is not only allowed, but encouraged, and evaluations are, for the most part, based on explanation and contextualization of ideas in written form rather than on rote memory. This makes me wonder how and if men and women at Sarah Lawrence experience their education differently. Furthermore, it makes me wonder how institutions that rely more on lecture format deal with this same question. Could this difference in learning preference be the reason why there are still more men than women in math and sciences? Should we just accept that there are certain fields that men are generally better at than women, and vice versa?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6161002581408993450?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6161002581408993450/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6161002581408993450' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6161002581408993450'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6161002581408993450'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/there-are-22-bones-in-head.html' title='There are 22 bones in the head'/><author><name>Carolyn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09289950663220834402</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-9103686661973829269</id><published>2007-11-11T23:32:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-11T23:32:34.453-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Schacter</title><content type='html'>I found the Schacter reading very interesting because so many of the points that he was making using experimental data seemed to put into words what I experienced in my own life.  The flashbulb memories section was interesting because I have always wondered about why they occur.  I still remember where I was when I found out Princess Diana died, which is so weird because I had only heard about her once or twice before, and her death had no real affect on me or my life.  Schacter talked a lot about how the emotional aspect of the event is what makes it stick out in your mind and what allows you to remember it clearly even after many years.  He also briefly touches on how the rehearsals of the events are the other reason why flashbulb memories occur.  I didn’t feel like he placed enough importance on that side of it.  Many of the memories he talked about were momentous events that affected a lot of people.  When something like that happens, there is a general sense among people that it is something that everyone will remember and be affected by.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I heard that Princess Diana died, my mom told me at that same time that it would be something that I would always remember and then preceded to tell me about how she will always remember where she was when she found out that JFK was shot.  This general ideal among a community about an event has to have some affect on individuals and their memories of the events.  Maybe it makes them feel the need to have more vivid memories than they actually have so they are swayed in that direction, or maybe it just makes the event have more emotional weight than it otherwise would.  Since my memory of the Princess Diana’s death definitely did not carry any emotional weight, this other aspect seemed to be a strong contributor to my later memory.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Kind of along those same lines, I had some trouble with the experiments about flashbulb memories that Schacter described.  The experiments where the participants were asked to write down the situations that they were in when they found out about some traumatic event seemed like they would be very inaccurate gauge for some of what they were testing.  If the person was told to write down what they experienced, then the added importance that was placed on the event would have an affect on their memories as well as their later recall of the memories.  Also, the act of writing it down seems like it would aid in later recall, something which most people don’t do with their flashbulb memories.  It just seems like the act of conducting the experiment would skew the results.  There would be no way around that fact though, since in order to confirm the accuracy of the memories the subjects must first write them down.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-9103686661973829269?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/9103686661973829269/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=9103686661973829269' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/9103686661973829269'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/9103686661973829269'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/11/schacter.html' title='Schacter'/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-3021190925249180222</id><published>2007-10-30T22:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-30T23:13:10.481-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pillemer</title><content type='html'>In the chapter by Pillemer, I was most interested in the dual memory model.  The idea that there are two parts to your memory, one which saves a picture of the event and another which saves the story seems very true to my experiences.  When I remember an event, what first comes to my mind is what seems like a snapshot of the event.  Right after that the stories of the event come flooding back.  This theory also seems to describe many problems that I have experienced with my own memory and that have been touched on in many of the readings we have done.  I have noticed in my own memory, that when remembering an event, I feel inclined to remember things a little differently than the probable reality because I factor into that memory information that I have since learned.  Memories are perpetually chagned by experiences that have occured after them.  This dual model seems to offer an explanation for how memories can seem so real to people even when they are actually a distorted reality.  Whenever I have a visual image of an event in my head it seems like a valid memory, so then whatever story comes with it automatically seems credible.  In that way, it seems that memories could get distorted all the time and people would not know because their visual image is credible.  I wonder if other people have similar experiences with their visual and verbal memories.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-3021190925249180222?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/3021190925249180222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=3021190925249180222' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/3021190925249180222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/3021190925249180222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/pillemer.html' title='Pillemer'/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8334932846761019742</id><published>2007-10-30T18:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-30T18:43:13.026-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 31 Post</title><content type='html'>What interested me the most in the Pillemer reading were the differences between linguistic and non-linguistic memory. In a way it’s hard for me to separate the two, however I can see how they distinction is important when analyzing the memory of young children. Thinking about one of my earliest memories, and how what I remember the most was the overwhelming feeling of guilt, so much that I cried in pre-school. So remembering the emotion is to use my linguistic memory. However, now that I’m older, I am able to put the memory of that event, and specifically, that feeling in words. I can verbalize the feeling. So my question is, wouldn’t this memory now fall under the non-linguistic category? And when we do begin to develop a sense of ourselves, to form words and put memory into stories to relate to others, do all of our memories become non-linguistic? Even the idea that our parents place memories on us, or that their recollection becomes our memories would place that memory in the non-linguistic category as well?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8334932846761019742?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8334932846761019742/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8334932846761019742' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8334932846761019742'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8334932846761019742'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-31-post.html' title='October 31 Post'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1455104378865874516</id><published>2007-10-30T14:32:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-30T14:32:45.534-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 31--Maternal Directing</title><content type='html'>Like Geoffrey, I found the concept of “maternal directing” of memories to be very interesting, particularly the idea that it has proven to be much more effective to fill in the gaps of what infants and children don’t remember rather than asking them questions in an attempt to probe their memory. This made me wonder what the infants and children are really remembering, the actually experience of whatever it is they are trying to remember or what their mother has told them about it. In this context, I assumed that the authors were talking about remembering events consciously and being able to recall them verbally, as opposed to unconscious influences, and, if this is in fact the case, it seems much more likely that children would recall their mother’s discussion of the incident rather than the incident itself. I do understand, though, that asking questions, especially the same one over and over again, will likely not stimulate a child to remember an event, I wonder if filling in the gaps is actually increasing the memory.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1455104378865874516?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1455104378865874516/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1455104378865874516' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1455104378865874516'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1455104378865874516'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-31-maternal-directing.html' title='October 31--Maternal Directing'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6577304521586117614</id><published>2007-10-29T06:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-29T07:12:55.640-07:00</updated><title type='text'>infant amnesia vs. adult recall</title><content type='html'>I found this weeks readings to be surprisingly interesting in regards to two major themes.  The first of these these is that of "maternal reminiscing" [Nelson] or "maternal directing" [Harley].  The idea of the style by which mothers describe or talk about the past with their infants as being important to the infants later ability to remember things verbally, or to retell them in detail is amazing to me.  Not only would i never have guessed that his was the case, but i was very skeptical of it as i read it.  After going through all of the readings, it would seem that there really is a connection, and that the difference which is obviously mother to mother, can also be seen culture to culture.  The example of cultures which promote oral history and the adults ability to remember their early childhood better is very intriguing.  I also found it interesting that the big difference between style is presented as either filling in the gaps of the story the infant does not produce vs. asking the child baited questions in the hopes that they will remember.  To me, the logical choice would be to do both, and i found it really surprising that filling in the gaps seemed to be so much more effective than asking the child more questions or giving them small cues in the hopes they would remember.  Similarly, i found it rather strange that Pillemer claimed that mothers style of narrative taught children what was appropriate to remember and what is not.  This did not seem to come up significantly in the other readings, but is something that struck me as  i read it and i would like it if we could bring it up in class.&lt;br /&gt;    The second big thing that was interesting was the correlation between self recognition and autobiographical memory.  While it seems obvious that being able to recognize yourself would impact your ability to remember things about yourself and what happened to you, it is less obvious that infants could have "verbal" or "autobiographical" memory before they were able to recognize themselves in the mirror [Bauer and Harley].  Not only is that counter intuitive, but it also means that the standard memory idea of implicit and explicit memory is in place and functioning form a very young age, and not something that develops at 3-5 years of age as the other readings were suggesting.  It is important to realize that the explicit memory ability is likely developing over this time period as the frontal lobe is developing, but it not "turned off", it is more likely unreliable or incapable of handling significant detail.  This idea actually goes really well in hand with one of my earliest memories in which i remember not being able to talk.&lt;br /&gt;    In terms of why adults do not remember these things very well, i found that while the different theories were compelling, they all seem to have a faulty assumption that was pointed out by one of the other arguments we read.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6577304521586117614?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6577304521586117614/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6577304521586117614' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6577304521586117614'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6577304521586117614'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/infant-amnesia-vs-adult-recall.html' title='infant amnesia vs. adult recall'/><author><name>geoffrey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00413045543815992231</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4713160905507527778</id><published>2007-10-29T04:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-29T04:31:24.145-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Infantile Amnesia</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;The main consensus reached by the authors of the articles we read this week was that infants and young children do have the ability to recall some incidents but that there are several factors that prevent them from being remembered in adulthood.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Numerous studies have proved than very young infants can recognize their mother’s voice.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The articles described many studies that had done variations on an experiment where the researcher performed a strange action with a prop, then gave the prop to the child to see if they would copy the action.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even after a time delay, infants could produce the correct action.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As the age of the child increased, the time between initially observing the action and being able to correctly recall it increased.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While these memories do not remain into adulthood, they can be remembered for long enough, proving that infants do have a functioning memory system.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;The articles we read also discussed the differences between linguistic and non-linguistic memory.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Pillemer describes these two systems as imagistic and narrative.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Imagistic memories are made up of sounds, images, and emotions and while this system can be used throughout the life span, it is especially useful for young children who do not yet have adequate language abilities. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The narrative system employs words, generally in the form of a story.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Imagistic memories are experienced while narrative memories can be related in a coherent form to others.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;These studies also discuss the importance of autobiographical memories.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These can only be formed after a person has formed a sense of self, meaning that they understand who they are in relation to everything around them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The ability to report autobiographical memory is usually influenced by how parents encourage their children to talk about past experiences.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Some parents ask leading questions allow their child time to elaborate while others simply ask the same question over and over again and then move on to another topic.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It would be interesting to look at how much of an effect these parental styles have over time.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Do these influences persist into adulthood and affect the way people interact with their own children?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Pillemer, to my delight, has finally introduced the topic of repression, arguing against it as a reason why children cannot remember their early years. Repression is one of Freud’s favorite explanations; he believes that early memories are forgotten because adults don’t want to remember the sexual nature of the earliest memories.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Pillemer disagrees with this and argues that mental development has the most affect on when memories can be recalled.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Early memories are formed in a way that is not accessible from the adult brain.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;I was also intrigued by the last section from Pillemer’s chapter, Repression as a Failure of Translation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Here, he suggests that forgotten memories of trauma are not repressed; they are simply encoded in a way that the adult does not know how to interpret.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Children often do not have a complete understanding of trauma and therefore, have no solid way of storing it to be remembered later.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;However, if this is true, then how exactly can these memories be recovered?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If they had better linguistic skills or a more complete sense of self at the time of the trauma, is it more likely to be recovered/remembered later on?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4713160905507527778?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4713160905507527778/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4713160905507527778' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4713160905507527778'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4713160905507527778'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/infantile-amnesia.html' title='Infantile Amnesia'/><author><name>Stephanie A</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13390658840960154243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2852490036683099925</id><published>2007-10-29T01:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-29T01:42:48.512-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Too much thinking. Again.</title><content type='html'>Between what I could not help but keep thinking was extraneous, redundant, and unnecessary evidence presented in “The Emergence of Autobiographical Memory : A Social Cultural Developmental Theory” by Kavush and Nelson, I kept finding points that opened up a whole new view of the article for me – one that I found, if slightly off-topic and idealistic, nonetheless extremely important. What I saw throughout their description of the development of the entity of autobiographical memory was a description that could almost simultaneously describe the development of personality. At the risk of possibly sounding slightly Freudian (though that may not be all bad?), I’ll point out some specifics that I found especially indicative of this. The first point in the reading at which this idea began forming in my mind was their discussion of childrens’ constructions of memories and concepts based on the “scaffolding” of these events by the adults (mainly mothers) around them. With memory in all its types being, more or less, the absolute most important component of the life of any human being, any event which is encoded in the mind of someone at the time when the memory is still in stages of the development that are not yet autonoetic but simply essential to functioning (as in, of course, a child) is going to hold extreme significance. As something that I can actually recall and relate to personally, the reinforcement of adults to children of the validity and correctness of the child’s recounting of an episode is just as important to the memory process as any other factor, and even more important to the later development of individual personality characteristics. As a theory: a child who does have their accounts and memories reinforced by their parents and other adults adapt a sense of self-confidence, even if it is not articulated as such at the time, and in accordance with the theory of autobiographical memory being a memory for important and life-defining events, this self confidence then has more potential at that time, in that instance, than it would at perhaps in a later point in the child’s development, to become salient in his/her personalities. Of course, I also do not mean this to sound like an over-simplification, either; the personality aspect of self-confidence was my main focus in the course of this reading because, in the way that I read this, it was alluded to, often, whether the authors intended for this or not. They even mentioned at one point that “’achievement of a cognitive self,’…is also characterized by a new self-consciousness, evidenced in inhibition, shyness, and embarrassment.” Also, the development of the component of autobiographical memory that is the ability of a child to see his or her own perspective in relation to those of others can also, again, by my theory, be a definite precursor for the natural characteristic tendency of all humans – to compare his or herself to others. And this idea brings me to the actual questions I wish to address based on all of these crazy observations – what makes some children eventually come to manifest these tendencies, and coinciding insecurities, more so than others? Is it whether or not the mother was elaborative or non-elaborative in the course of the child’s development, forcing the child not only have a somewhat lesser developed (at least at the time) memory in the case of the latter but also be at a loss for comparability by which to validate the things he or she remembers? (And, as another tangent, will this influence the level of creativity possessed by a child eventually? Will the child be more prone to self-doubt and subsequent confabulation and alternate forms of expression if their memories and ideas are not readily, or ever, confirmed by adults [assuming that if they were, they would develop more stringent ideas and concepts of the world, or at least be more apt to doing so]?) If the individual outcomes of autobiographical memory development truly is so dependent on social contexts, then why do children from the same families and upbringings so often turn out so differently, in many respects at that? Does it have to do with intelligence? And if so, in the correlation of memory and intelligence, what comes first, the chicken or the egg? Referring to the experimental task of toddlers needing a key to open a box, “Children who did not verbally recall this causal connection even when probed also did not evidence behavioral reenactment of the causal connection, being surprised when they could not open the box at the end of the event sequence.” At that age, is there any other way to measure intelligence than by memory? My questions are admittedly vague and scattered, but all this seeming circumlocution is, hopefully, pointing to my idea that there is much more that can be learned – and, more importantly, predicted – from the development of autobiographical memory than we may realize. Personality may be able to be evaluated even in the earliest stages of life. I may seem to be just further blurring already vague, scattered, and still developing realms of thought, but that seems to me to be utterly necessary. “Whereas memory for specific episodes is important for anticipating and predicting the environment autobiographical memory, as defined here, is about defining self in time and in relation to others.” That statement seems far too black-and-white to me. Are not all episodes remembered for a reason, an emotional reason, no matter how implicit?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another observation I had, which is, I promise, less far-reaching and much less long-winded, is the author’s treatment of the retrieval of the very first memories of life. Within the text itself, there seems to be a very significant contradiction. It is empirically stated in the analysis of one of the authors’ experiments that children’s recounts of certain events, when they are prompted by interviewers to give them at several different intervals spread over months and even years, will consistently still utilize only the vocabulary that the children had at the time of the initial recount, even though their vocabulary has clearly developed immensely since that time. So with this in mind, how much faith can we put in the first memories at ALL? There was little or no language in the mental construct of all persons at the time that this first “memory” was “made”, so how can any later, especially adulthood representation or conveyance of this “memory” even qualify as a memory at all? It is at best misrepresented or exaggerated, and at worst completely confabulated. In the context of the role of language in autobiographical memory, I cannot see any way around this. The authors actually do seem to almost reach this conclusion, by stating that “the first recalled memory does not imply a now continuous autobiographical memory”, but do not explain why. I was only satisfied when I went on to read Howe and Courage, and found that my feelings on this topic were valid: they make clear that, if in either case that they propose for the reason behind infantile amnesia, the first memories are either irretrievable (if memory is in fact permanent) because the context of the initial encoding is too vastly different from the context of the attempt at retrieval, or the mental state of the person at the time did not support the memory being significantly encoded (if memory is not permanent) because, due to the massive and rapid attempts of the minds of infants and young children to instinctively take in every bit of information they can, there was simply not enough time and enough cognitive ability available. Yes, Howe and Courage. Yes.&lt;br /&gt;And yet, the focus of their article was still not entirely what I was hyped up for. Infantile amnesia is a fascinating phenomenon, but when studying it simply in and of itself, and paying equal or less attention to what is actually remembered throughout these years, where are we getting? Not far. I’m open to and ready for much questioning and arguing (and probably general confusion) relating to all these observations, but in hopes of at least giving us all a place to start, let me sum up the above garrulous rambling into a single sentence: As long as both concepts are still present in every analysis, let’s focus less on what is forgotten and more on what is remembered.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2852490036683099925?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2852490036683099925/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2852490036683099925' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2852490036683099925'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2852490036683099925'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/too-much-thinking-again.html' title='Too much thinking. Again.'/><author><name>Annie Alden James</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12422941886935256165</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8292725453404913576</id><published>2007-10-28T23:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-28T23:33:21.364-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Development and Socialization, or How I learned to Stop Forgetting and Conceive of the Self</title><content type='html'>Pillemer and I have made up.  I'm totally into his stuff this week.&lt;br /&gt;   I think the his writing on the narrative memory system and linguistic development are incredibly important in terms of the development of the self and autobiographical memory.  However, Pillemer's dualistic view seems a little too simple.  While we are dividing and itemizing memory systems, I am more apt to side with Roediger and say that there are probably more like 20 to 25 different interactive memory systems working together at any given time.  I at least wish Pillemer had accounted for other types of sensory memory (auditory, kinesthetic, olfactory) more thoroughly.  Perhaps his idea of imagistic traces covers all sensory perception.  Drawing the lines between the systems quickly becomes sticky, but nonetheless his distinction between encoding experiences prelinguistically and after linguistic/narrative skills have been acquired is very significant.  In the context of verbal recall (which, as Bauer points out, is what most of this research is preoccupied with), linguistic mastery during both encoding and recall seems to be of the utmost importance.  Early childhood memories are not filtered through a linguistic narrative lens and are “discordant with adults' purposeful recollective efforts.”  Perhaps this is the same reason we often have a difficult time verbally recalling dreams.  As most dreams do not unfold in a logical narrative manner, the dreamer, similar to the prelinguistic child, has a hard time recalling the jumbled, fluidly encoded images.  Charlotte Doyle of SLC's psychology department places a great deal of importance on linguistically representing one's thoughts, justifying her requirement that all students post on the blog prior to every class by saying, “You haven't thought it until you've put it into words.”  Nelson and Fivush have a lot to say about language's importance in development of the concept of self and memory.  For instance, language gives the idea of the abstract construct of time and helps to organize memories into the narrative forms of autobiographic memory.  More importantly perhaps, it allows children to interact with other people, strengthening their sense of self and their socially constructed notions of what and how one should remember.&lt;br /&gt;This social/cultural theory is equally as important and inextricably linked to the Pillemer's narrative model.  Harley and Reese say “The primary purpose of autobiographical memory is to share personal memories with others,” so of course we are talking about something that is largely social.  At first, I was a little put off by how much sense this deterministic social/cultural model made.  If I am simply a product of my social upbringing, and the way I represent all my memories and my concept of self are socially determined before I even have a concept of self, what hope do I have of achieving any sort of originality in my predetermined life?  But I found the fact that children's unique styles of interaction with parents during memory talk influences how parents go about this talk to be existentially empowering.  Then I felt unsettled again when, after reading that parents' memory talk styles have an definite impact on children's memories and personalities, I started to think about the effect of our teach-for-the-test educational system.&lt;br /&gt;It is fairly obvious that events experienced prior to attaining a concrete sense of self would not be momentous.  If something is not happening to what you perceive as &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you&lt;/span&gt;, you will be less likely to remember it—as Pillemer beats to death in the section of his second chapter that I didn't like.  Without a concept of self, one is no better off than a third-party recipient of information (such as the atomic bomb being dropped on Hiroshima) or than the amnesiacs we've talked about being told of their own past as if it were secondhand knowledge.  If one does not believe something to be important to their lives, it is not necessary to be encoded in long term memory.  This sort of evolutionary view (where one remembers that which is critical to his survival, forgetting that which is not—as mentioned in the section of Pillemer's second chapter that I did like) carries over beyond childhood amnesia to, I think, any period or part of your life that you don't recall very well.  If the events of this period are not vital to your current goals or emotional state, why would you remember them?  In this light (and after reading the accounts of decent to impressive infantile memory), I side with Howe and Courage in that infantile amnesia is largely a chimera, a popular figment perpetuated by the relatively recent spike in childhood amnesia research.&lt;br /&gt;One last note: What do you guys think about Howe and Courage's section about infants' memory traces being reactivated so much that instead of crystalizing the trace as a permanent memory, the repeated remembering actually (as I've posted before) exponentially perverts the memory to the point of furthering infantile amnesia?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8292725453404913576?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8292725453404913576/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8292725453404913576' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8292725453404913576'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8292725453404913576'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/development-and-socialization-or-how-i.html' title='Development and Socialization, or How I learned to Stop Forgetting and Conceive of the Self'/><author><name>Cory Antiel</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10873597510179514332</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2034796608360804420</id><published>2007-10-24T03:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-24T03:15:49.896-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The phenomenological account of TOT</title><content type='html'>The readings for this discussion generated several questions in my mind. Brown (1991) as well as Maril (2001) and Schacter (2001) provided explorations of this phenomenon leaving me thoroughly unsatisfied and confused; I wanted to know more about emotionality and if it was actually a necessary component of TOT. What are the conditions (on both a personal and social level) that produce a sense of urgency for the individual? Is TOT determined relative to the social environment, or is it conditioned by personal cognitive functioning? Although the various direct-access theories address some of these questions, the methodology applied does not seem conducive to accurate results. I considered the subject’s dependence on how he/she contemplates the target word, and that the shift from general to more specific detail represents a difference in how much—as well as in what way—attention is commanded to the target. The cognitive strategy comprises a process of breaking down one’s comprehensive analysis (schema) of a certain target. Subsequently, I questioned the role of familiarity and recognition. To have truly invoked a TOT, should the subject be able to recognize that he/she is familiar with the target word but for whatever reason he/she is unable to recall it presently? What exactly is the relationship between interference and TOT? I thought about how I have experienced TOT in the past, both subjectively and through interaction or observation of peers, and I realized that there was usually a strong resistance to admitting that one did not know or could not eventually recall the target word. There is something to be examined when considering the competitive nature that can arise when one is in a social setting (i.e. when multiple individuals are trying to recall the same target).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;         When Brown (1991) discussed investigations that have studied TOTs in children, I didn’t understand how scientists could even attempt to analyze this. During such early stages of linguistic development it seems futile to conduct such experimentation—how can one even tell if they kids are just having difficulty with pronunciation or if they are actually experiencing TOT?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;         By the time I had read these first three articles, I felt there was a necessity to establish distinct ramifications of the TOT state because there are too many gray areas. We must acknowledge that not everyone is going to experience it in the same way while establishing what exactly distinguishes it from a “feeling of knowing” state. I felt that TOT hinged on this sense of necessity to retrieve the information that is psychologically determined by the individual as well as his/her environment. The conundrum hinges on these two binary conditions: the desired information can remain in one’s realm of consciousness and remain accessible without extensive effort at certain times, but under other circumstances one can feel utterly helpless until it later arises, often when one’s attention is not focused on retrieval. It was not until examining Schwartz’s (1999) article that I felt these topics were appropriately addressed. He brings up extremely relevant aspects that must be considered; his discussion of Tulving’s (1989) critique of the doctrine of concordance is essentially what the other articles seem to gloss over. Tulving emphasized the difference between “the cognitive process of ‘retrieval’” and “the experience of ‘recollection’” based on the notion that one is representative of behavior while the other is of phenomenology. Theorists have often assumed that the cognitive processes involved in these are the same, but Tulving (and Schwartz) deny this. Positing that we are not consciously aware of this process of retrieval, Schwartz elaborates that it “may not be accompanied by a feeling that recollection from memory has occurred” (380). Phenomenology implies that feeling accompanies cognition, and it seems that approaching TOT in this light would be more appropriate. Schwartz concludes by support of metacognitive theories that although these processes may not be one and the same, experimental results have shown that they are most likely linked. He even states that this association “may occur only because of features of the external environment” (390). I think that further research should be conducted according to the metacognitive approaches. Clearly TOT can be invoked in laboratory settings, but I think it has a lot to do with how significant the target word is for the individual relative to their environment, and perhaps it is more appropriate to study this phenomenon as it manifests itself everyday. Realizing that one cannot recall a piece of information that was previously recalled is different from having a similar realization with an affective reaction. It all depends on how the individual attaches value and perceives such meaning relative to time and place.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2034796608360804420?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2034796608360804420/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2034796608360804420' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2034796608360804420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2034796608360804420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/phenomenological-account-of-tot.html' title='The phenomenological account of TOT'/><author><name>Nadia</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12674101153868086233</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4441297632326089536</id><published>2007-10-22T19:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-22T19:43:54.751-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Ironic Relief</title><content type='html'>Up to this point our class readings have mainly revolved around broad ideas in memory research—different levels of memory, recall and retrieval. We have also studied anomalies and irregularities such as amnesia and synesthesia. And while the ideas seem concrete at face value, truly understanding their nature has yielded less than solid results, and we are often left to rely on inference and interpretation. How ironic it is, then, that the study of such a frustrating experience as the tip-of-the-tongue phenomenon could be so satisfying. I found this week’s readings “satisfying” for a few reasons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, all the readings worked together by providing different viewpoints of the same subject. While Schwartz offered an array of theories explaining the etiology of TOT, the Maril study gave sound neurological evidence linking certain parts of the brain (the anterior cingulated cortex and lateral prefrontal cortex) to the processes of conflict detection and retrieval monitoring that accompany TOT. And Schacter does what he does best—presenting cognitive theory, neurological study, and human story together in a cohesive text. Just as there are many interweaving ways to interpret TOT data, there are many ways in which these readings support each other and enrich our overall understanding. Unlike many other subjects in memory research, TOT lends itself easily to examination in multiple fields of study.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And speaking of examination, TOT is a pleasure because it can be so well studied in the laboratory. The factors are not only easy to control, but also easy to calculate. The results are definitive—one either knows, doesn’t know, or has TOT, and factors such as time and cues are easily quantifiable. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another reason why TOT study is so satisfying is because it tends to ring true. It is a universal phenomenon, meaning that everyone exactly what TOT feels like. Unlike other specific phenomena such as amnesia, we all have personal experience with TOT, which we can reflect upon when evaluating different theories. It is pleasing to find that the findings and theories of well-respected experts of psychology, neurology, and cognitive science match up with your own intuitions on the same subject. Even the technical psychological term, “tip-of-the-tongue,” is intuitive, having originated from colloquial usage. TOT study is utterly accessible. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While it is safe to assume that TOT is universal, it is evident from the readings that there are many differing views and theories on why it occurs. As someone with a lifetime of experience with TOT, which theories most ring true for you? How exactly do you explain this feeling with which you are so familiar?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4441297632326089536?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4441297632326089536/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4441297632326089536' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4441297632326089536'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4441297632326089536'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/ironic-relief.html' title='Ironic Relief'/><author><name>Carolyn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09289950663220834402</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2386870222479624111</id><published>2007-10-22T18:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-22T18:57:09.161-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 24 Blog</title><content type='html'>Burke and MacKay’s ideas on retrieved information also intrigued me as I came to see it in my experiment subjects, and myself, in the TOT test. It was almost frustrating, this clinging to a familiar name even though I KNEW it was wrong. But when I would force it out of my mind, it was almost as if I was staring at a blank blackboard. I had nothing to go on. My other subjects felt the same way. One of them even told himself to, “forget that one!” I observed similar reactions to the TOT feeling that Catie did with her subjects. They would return and repeat the information they already knew about the actors, rather then try to cue up new information. This did not work for me in helping to cue up the name, but it did work for one of my subjects. This could be because I did get frustrated because I knew what I was doing, knew that I was simply repeating the same thing over and over, and thus getting nowhere. Who’s to say that if I just focused on the information instead of my feelings, I would have been able, like my subject, to retrieve the name.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An interesting topic came up this weekend with a few friends that relates to memory and how we view our own memories. One of my friends explains his memory as an office filled with filing cabinets, but the cabinets aren’t labeled, which is why he sometimes gets his memories mixed up and has a hard time retrieving certain ones. I thought that theory related to Augustine’s comparison between his memory and a great harbor. It also made me realize that I have never visualized my memory, or attempted to. Maybe this has something to do with my preference for auditory learning. Sounds and the way I hear things tend to make a greater impact then images. I have never thought of my memory as something else, or given it an image. I was wondering if this, giving memory an image, is common, and what types of images do we give?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2386870222479624111?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2386870222479624111/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2386870222479624111' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2386870222479624111'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2386870222479624111'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-24-blog.html' title='October 24 Blog'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8003886537680151863</id><published>2007-10-21T21:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-21T21:59:14.743-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 24th Post---TOT</title><content type='html'>I felt that the most compelling aspect of this week’s reading was the discussion of various brain-imaging techniques used to illustrate the tip-of-the-tongue phenomenon. Though it seems as if the neural systems that causes TOT, as pointed out by Maril, Wagner, and Schacter, the evidence that has been discovered so far makes it very clear that there are distinct neurological patterns of activation that occur during TOT. I was particularly intrigued by the fact that TOT retrieval failures are accompanied by activation in the anterior-cingulate prefrontal cortices, a region of the brain that is involved in a metacognitive conflict. This is especially interesting because in my initial readings about tip-of-the-tongue, I never considered it as much of a neural conflict as I did a failure of a sufficient connection. For example, one of the readings (unfortunately, I cannot locate the place where I read this) mentioned the idea of a memory involving TOT not being able to produce a neural connection that is strong enough to enable a full recall. Conceiving of TOT failures as a meetacognitive conflict between the individual’s confidence in the existence of the knowledge and the cognitive level is an interesting challenge to my own previous views on tip-of-the-tongue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am interested to see what future research on the tip-of-the-tongue phenomenon will reveal, particularly in terms of the neurological aspects. Schwartz’s very brief introduction to the neuropsychological approach mentioned that such approaches have investigated TOT in populations with conditions such as Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and aphasics. Though the research is still, at this point, limited, it is my hope that further research will be able to clarify just what mechanisms specifically underlie TOT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a fairly unrelated note, I also found it particularly interesting that TOT occurs more often with proper nouns, especially names, than other types of words. Schacter discusses this concept in depth in The Seven Sins of Memory, especially the idea of associations. For example, patients would be able to recall that someone is a baker more easily than their name because the concept of baker brings to mind a wide array of images. He also discussed a study in which patients were able to more easily recall names such as Grumpy, Snow White, and Scrooge, which have personality and physical implications in the names themselves. It made me wonder about how often this happens in more personal situations, like if you meet someone named Mary who looks like Mary Poppins. I’m curious if one’s own knowledge and perceptions can influence name blocking in this way as strongly as more concrete associations can.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8003886537680151863?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8003886537680151863/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8003886537680151863' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8003886537680151863'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8003886537680151863'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-24th-post-tot.html' title='October 24th Post---TOT'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1549376289627711341</id><published>2007-10-21T21:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-21T21:14:03.044-07:00</updated><title type='text'>is there possibility for spontaneous retrieval?</title><content type='html'>The Malin, Wagner, Schacter article writes that the TOT state is marked by recovery of partial information from long term memory. This leads to a sense of familiarity about the target trying to be retrieved. However, this familiarity does not actually help to retrieve the target information. The article states that the familiarity does not produce a coherent enough body of information about the target to aid in retrieval, and thus the retrieval effort is led to failure. In fact, some of the information retrieved that leads to this sense of familiarity may be related to the target in such a way that retrieving the target information actually becomes more difficult.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Burke &amp;amp; MacKay elaborate on the idea of retrieved information prolonging the TOT state in the Schacter article when the “ugly sister” theory of blocking during the TOT state is discussed. Schacter writes that “often we tend to embrace the ugly sisters because they provide a comforting feeling of being “close” to the target and thus reassure us that we are about to resolve the TOT.” I noted examples of this in my own subjects when they were in a TOT state. One subject continued to repeat the name “Angela Lansbury” to himself while trying to recall the name “Annette Bening”. This repetition did not serve to help him ever remember the name Annette Bening, but, still, he continued to return to the non-target name. The sense of familiarity discussed by Marlin, Wagner, &amp;amp; Schacter in their TOT paper is not exactly what Schacter is discussing when he refers to  the “ugly sister”. However, I think that the ugly sister model is useful in understanding how seemingly related and coherent information (which leads to the feeling of familiarity generated during the TOT state) can actually mislead a person trying to retrieve a target information. For example I noted that subjects were prone to repeating information about the target that was retrieved, rather than attempting to retrieve new information about the target. For example when trying to retrieve the name “Ben Stiller” the subject would return to the movies that the actor had been in, listing them off or trying to imagine what the movie cover looked like. Although these attempted cues had already been (unsuccessfully) tried before, the subject continued to return to them for aid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought that this idea of retrieval of related information (and sometimes unrelated, as with the case of ugly sister information) actually inhibiting the retrieval of the target information was really interesting. Schacter speaks quite a bit to the idea of semantic organization and why retrieval of information related to the character of a proper noun does not help to retrieve that noun due to the lack of coherent connect and to the abstract nature of the connotation between the actual sound of the target and the information that is retrieved while searching for the target. It is, therefore, not surprising to note that the information that is retrieved is not used at all to actually retrieve the target information. Schacter states that one third of TOTs are resolved by a spontaneous or involuntary “pop up” of the target information. He states, however, that these spontaneous retrievals are probably not spontaneous. His evidence for this is that in a lab setting subjects who narrate their thoughts have traceable cues for the target retrieval. This information somewhat frustrated me. Firstly I felt like in this case what was found in the lab setting may not be cohesive with the way the retrieval works in the “real world”. Although I think that it is possible that there is external cuing which activate the retrieval of the target information, I think that it would be somewhat shortsighted to ignore the possibility which Schacter presents and then disagrees with: “the influence of ugly sisters has dissipates over time” and there is an “incubation process that operate[s] outside of awareness”. Perhaps the word spontaneous is not correct. Perhaps there is a cueing processes at hand. However, I would say that in “nature” rather than the cue for the retrieval coming from a stream of consciousness, as it does in the lab setting, the cue is so deeply embedded “outside of awareness” that there is no external stimulation- or traceable stimulation. It is purely internal, complicated, multi-faceted stimulation which leads to the retrieval of the target information. Overlooking this idea could possibly lead to overlooking a huge possibility for the way in which the mind stores and retrieves information, not to mention distinct ideas of how the mind works in general. Would it be so far fetched to think of a situation in which target information is retrieved during a dream, or in a similar state that lacks a coherent narrative-like state of consciousness? I know that Schacter is not saying that all cues are external. And he is certainly cannot be labeling the brain as so one dimensional. I suppose I just don’t see how without prescribing to these two views (external cuing and a “one dimensional” brain) he can rule out the possibility of spontaneous cuing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1549376289627711341?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1549376289627711341/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1549376289627711341' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1549376289627711341'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1549376289627711341'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/is-there-possibility-for-spontaneous.html' title='is there possibility for spontaneous retrieval?'/><author><name>Catie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hH19f5LMp7w/Sc-g_5PBo8I/AAAAAAAAAHU/t3ynodB_XMg/S220/09790010.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2975365203360377521</id><published>2007-10-21T18:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-21T18:53:00.195-07:00</updated><title type='text'>TOT in Amnesiac Patients and Older Subjects.</title><content type='html'>I think in general I felt like there was a large amount of theory behind what might be the cause of this experience, but no real way to measure if recall is based on blockers or incomplete activation or any other theory. All of the theories presented in Schwartz's paper seem perfectly viable to me, so it feels like there is a definite lack of evidence to prove any of the theories. To me, a combination of absence of the correct cues and the presence of blockers seems logical. I feel like the general amount of data presented supports multiple theories, and are therefore inconclusive to support any one. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I experienced a large amount of frustration with Schwartz because he presents so many different viewpoints, but I felt no real backing for any of them. In general, I just want more data about the process that leads to TOT, and the resolution of the state. I think that it's relatively impossible to give more evidence for any theory with the technology and design of current experiments, but the article seemed more to define theories than to give real insight into the memory retrieval process. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing that intrigued me was the activation of parts of the right hemisphere normally associated with episodic memory in the retrieval of information to alleviate the TOT state. Of all of the arguments presented, the importance of episodic memory in determining the correct word makes the most sense. To recall, most people use episodic cues (such as what the actor looked like in the movie) in order to access the semantic memory. In earlier readings, we discussed a person's ability to use their semantic memory when their episodic memory is damaged. I now wonder how this lack of episodic memory affects the recall of a word in the TOT state. Furthermore, I wonder if a TOT state actually exists for amnesia patients, when they have a poor episodic memory. Very little is mentioned about the study of amnesiacs and the TOT state. I think the prevalence of this state would either decrease or increase depending on the damage and am interested to see in which cases the TOT state even still existed. The only issue I can find with studying amnesiacs and TOT is the possibility of too many variables as a result of their brain damage. Unless a full assessment of their general cognitive abilities is know, it may be difficult to differentiate between the two states. (TOT and general amnesia.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Very few studies have been done focusing the correlation between age and the number of TOT states produced. Of those, there is a definite trend supporting that younger adults experience less of this phenomenon than do the elderly. However, I felt like it was generally assumed that this increase in TOT state was a direct result of memory deterioration, and not the information the individual has been exposed to. If the theory of blocking is correct, then wouldn't a larger amount of TOT states possibly be because of the greater amount of information that comes to mind when given a single cue? With age, we acquire more memory and more cues. Most of which, overlap in some fashion. Is it really because older people have a poorer memory, or because they have more information stored in their head and therefore harder to for them to find the correct word because there is too much interference. It's strange to me that while this observation between age and the occurences of the TOT state, there is no real investigation into why. I felt like there was just an assumption made that because they are older, their memory has deteriorated. However, the studies Schwartz refers to in his article only show that there is a difference between age groups, but very little evidence as to why.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2975365203360377521?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2975365203360377521/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2975365203360377521' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2975365203360377521'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2975365203360377521'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/tot-in-amnesiac-patients-and-older.html' title='TOT in Amnesiac Patients and Older Subjects.'/><author><name>Julia Petre</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12288619579290965932</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4959391863584141884</id><published>2007-10-16T18:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-16T18:16:20.590-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 17 Blog</title><content type='html'>I thought that Bourtchouldaze’s discussion of prosopagnosia was very interesting, particularly the idea that even though such patients could not consciously identify any faces, changes in their skin’s electrical conductivity indicated that they can, on some unconscious level, identify faces. This made me wonder three things. First, I was curious as to what would make the researchers even begin to look at the electrical conductivity of the skin, for it seems that it would have been more likely for them to look for changes in conductivity (or another variable) in various parts of the brain. Second, I wondered why an increase in skin conductivity, which indicates a nervous, emotional, or guilty predisposition, would relate to face recognition; though emotional doesn’t seem very far off, feelings of guilt and nervousness are not ones I would think would be associated with knowledge of faces. Third, what are the differences, in terms of brain structures used, between “covert” recognition and “overt” recognition? Even though the facial recognition in this patient was unconscious, it seems unlikely that it would entirely bypass the brain structures used in conscious recognition. Bourtchouldaze states earlier in the chapter that “information flows through a set of distinct but interconnected neural networks, each of which performs a certain job. These interconnected networks allow information to be processed in a parallel fashion so that damage to one part of the network does not necessarily affect the function of the rest of the system.” What distinguishes, then, the part of the network involved in conscious facial recognition from the part that is involved in unconscious facial recognition?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4959391863584141884?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4959391863584141884/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4959391863584141884' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4959391863584141884'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4959391863584141884'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-17-blog.html' title='October 17 Blog'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1910623545392461103</id><published>2007-10-14T21:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-14T21:20:03.637-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>I found this weeks reading from Schacter especially interesting.  It is always the most compelling to read about case studies to better understand a concept.  While reading the case studies of the people suffering from severe amnesia, I realized how important memory is to every aspect of our lives, and how devastating it would be to lose parts of it.  Even the people who retained procedural memory and some of their semantic memory were severely impaired.  The loss of your episodic memory leaves you with no real sense of self, no way to make goals or plans for the future, and no way to relate to people and make new attachments and connections.  You are essentially alive in a very stagnant state.  It seemed so hopeless and depressing.  &lt;br /&gt; I thought it was interesting when Schacter talked about how some amnesic patients are aware of their memory disorders and some aren’t.  It seems like it could even be a built in defense mechanism for the person to be unaware of their memory problems.  When they are left unaware they are able to exist as well as they could with their brains being so compromised.  It seems similar to other mental illnesses like autism.  More severely autistic children are as content with their existence as possible.  Less severely autistic children, however, are aware that they are unable to make the connections with people that other people make.  They are aware that they are not “normal” and that they are missing out on parts of life that others take pleasure in.  &lt;br /&gt; I liked the way that Schacter talked about the experiments in brain imaging that lead up to our current understanding of the different parts of the brain and what mental processes occur in each of them.  The PET scan and magnetic resonance imaging have really elevated our understanding of the brain in ways that were never possible before.  Studies conducted using this type of technology to figure out what parts of the brain are responsible for what seems much more exact and scientific to me than the studies we talked about before like Ebbinghaus and Bartlett.  These new technologies allow us to take out the human element which made the previous studies unpredictable and uncontrollable.  It is now possible to follow the scientific method more exactly and hold most of the variables constant except the one being tested.  To me, the results from these tests seem more accurate and reliable.  &lt;br /&gt; Another interesting part in Schacter was when he discussed the experiment done on priming where they showed participants a picture for just a second and then later the participants said that the liked that drawing over the other ones.  I find that is true in my life also.  If I have heard part of a song, even just playing in the background as I am doing something else and not focusing on it I always like it more later when I actually listen to it.  When something is even a little familiar, I like it more than I would if it was my first time hearing it.  At least for me, this seems to be true of most things in my life.  Familiarity has a comfortable feeling which for me, becomes intertwined with feelings of enjoyment.  Even places seem nicer when I have already been there, even if I don’t know that I have been there until I find out later.  I wonder if that is true for most people.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1910623545392461103?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1910623545392461103/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1910623545392461103' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1910623545392461103'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1910623545392461103'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/i-found-this-weeks-reading-from.html' title=''/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1120813955418249072</id><published>2007-10-09T20:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T20:39:05.030-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='`'/><title type='text'>Luria</title><content type='html'>One thing that struck me was how S. didn't realize that he had an extraordinary memory until they first began to test him.  It doesn't seem possible to me that he could not have figured out how diffferent his brain was from everyone else's.  I wonder if his brain matured and his thinking changed as he began to critically analyze himself.  I wonder if being forced to articulate how he thought and how his memory worked made his thinking patterns change.  I know that when I try and think about how my mind does something, I never feel like I can truely grasp how it works because my concious mind always changes it in some way.  Trying to dissect the thought into its component parts ruins some of the integrity of it.  The subject would never be able to explain themselves fully because they would always be either succumbing to the expectations placed on them or conciously resisting them.  &lt;br /&gt;    The other part that really fascinated me was his descriptions of his synesthesia.  I wonder if this type of memory can be found to a lesser degree in other people or if it is one of those things that is either present or not.  For instance, maybe some people have incredibly vivid visual memories and have different sensory perceptions, but just not quite to the extent that S. had.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1120813955418249072?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1120813955418249072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1120813955418249072' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1120813955418249072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1120813955418249072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/luria.html' title='Luria'/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-7127676781709446660</id><published>2007-10-09T17:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-09T17:53:17.151-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 10 post</title><content type='html'>Pillemer brought up some things that I have thought about before, particularly in terms of traumatic memories. I think someone said before that the most significant memories from their childhood were the good, happy ones. In my case though, it’s been the painful traumatizing events that have stuck out the most, when I was in a bad car accident and sprained my shoulder, or when I fractured my knee playing basketball. Both of those being sudden and extremely painful are probably reasons they are still so vivid in my mind. That being said, I don’t think of them as particularly haunting either. The older I get, the more I find myself disconnecting with those memories. It’s not as if they’ve faded dramatically, but more along the lines of they have stopped affecting me emotionally. This could be because they weren’t extreme life threatening events, and somewhere along the line I probably decided that I didn’t need to attach myself to those events. It’s funny that the memories that tend to bring up emotion or more visceral reactions are the more emotional memories, memories of a deceased friend or moving to a new home. Remembering emotion brings up emotion…it’s weird.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also thought it was funny that S. (in the Luria book) had to &lt;strong&gt;will &lt;/strong&gt;himself to forget. It’s been my experience that the more I &lt;strong&gt;try&lt;/strong&gt; to forget, the more I remember. Maybe it’s a subconscious willing that I’m not aware of. It really struck me how tuned in to his memory S. was. Obviously he got better and better at explaining his images and his process of remembering. But even so, to remember &lt;strong&gt;how&lt;/strong&gt; you remember is complicated, and then to be able to put that process into words, an almost story, is pretty amazing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-7127676781709446660?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/7127676781709446660/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=7127676781709446660' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/7127676781709446660'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/7127676781709446660'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-10-post.html' title='October 10 post'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8834197513564334698</id><published>2007-10-08T19:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-08T19:48:47.458-07:00</updated><title type='text'>S and Forgetting</title><content type='html'>I was very intrigued by Luria's description of S.'s attempts to forget things. Though the methods S. tried to use to forget information he no longer wanted to be able to remember seemed odd and rather tedious at times, such as having to take time to visualize burning the information, it does seem to fit quite logically with S.'s general patterns of memory. When he would hear something, such as a sequence of numbers or words, he visualize the information in a chart and, when later asked to recall, would retrieve this information from his visual images of these very same charts. When he would try to forget this information then, he would visualize a chalkboard with these charts and attempt to mentally erase the information---another visualization technique. It was surprising to me, then, that such a method did not work. The fact that he found success in a method as simple as not recalling things he did not wish to recall seems unusual, and left me with an unanswered question. Though in one instant, such during a performance, S. might not wish to remember certain data and is able to "forget" it, does that mean he will has forgotten the data forever or just in that instant when he wanted to forget it? If he later wanted to remember data he had previously "forgotten," would he be able to? I am hesitant to believe that a man with such a complex and detailed memory system to rid himself of memories in such a simple and passive way.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8834197513564334698?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8834197513564334698/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8834197513564334698' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8834197513564334698'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8834197513564334698'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/s-and-forgetting.html' title='S and Forgetting'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6394040284746630368</id><published>2007-10-08T18:00:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-08T18:00:30.944-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Luria and Pillemer</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;I found Luria’s account of the mnemonist extremely fascinating.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I was most interested in the ways that his memory affected his ability to think and reason on a higher level.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Despite his prodigious memory, S had a great deal of trouble understanding abstract thoughts and ideas, due to his mind’s need to visualize and hear everything that it encountered.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, if he heard the words intelligence or boundless, he might be able to associate some sound with them, but they are both rather difficult words to attach visual imagery to (I realize that these may not be the best examples; “nothing” and “infinity”, as discussed in the book work better).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It would have been interesting to know how S dealt with less visual but still abstract words such as love, sadness, or joy.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s easier to attach visual imagery to these words but they are still abstract concepts.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;I was also interested by his inability to forget things, needing to visually erase them or throw them away in order to not have them interfere with whatever he was trying to do.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I was amused (although it must have been quite frustrating for him) by his account of trying to forget things by writing them on scraps of paper, and then burning the papers, but still being able to make out fragments of the words on the charred paper.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It seems that S has to work harder to forget things than most of us have to do to remember things.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;I wish that Luria had investigated his memory’s affects on his personality more deeply.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;S’s descriptions of visualizing “him” doing things, but separately from the “I” was fascinating.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His differentiation between reality and imagination seems very thin at times and it would be interesting to know how aware he is of what his mind is doing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luria never really address how much control S had over this splitting, or if he was able to exert more or less control over it at certain times.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;Pillemer devotes chapter two to commenting on what makes a memory memorable.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He first discusses traumatic memories in relation to PTSD.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These memories are imprinted in the brain during a high stress situation, are most clearly recalled when the person feels helpless to control the situation, and are easily recalled at a later time.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There are generally numerous, sometimes seemingly insignificant, triggers for these memories.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He next discusses critical incidences and insight, situations where a situation is clearly recalled but is not traumatic.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These usually include major life events or decisions.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This chapter is quite thorough but I was surprised that Pillemer didn’t incorporate a discussion of repressed memories. I realize that this is a controversial and complex idea, perhaps too complicated to discuss in-depth in this text, but it seems like he should have at least raised the idea.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He does broach the issue, to some extent, in the section on accuracy, but he never mentions not repressing the incident altogether.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6394040284746630368?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6394040284746630368/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6394040284746630368' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6394040284746630368'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6394040284746630368'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/luria-and-pillemer.html' title='Luria and Pillemer'/><author><name>Stephanie A</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13390658840960154243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8315893828351194257</id><published>2007-10-08T16:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-08T16:47:26.152-07:00</updated><title type='text'>comments on Pillemer</title><content type='html'>Pillemer brought up several things which i found very interesting and that have come up in my own thoughts.  One of these is the idea of traumatic experiences causes startling memories to spring up on even seemingly minor cue's.  What interests me in this case specifically is the ability to suffer through life threatening scenario's and then have very significant cues not summon up painful memories [but still be able to remember the events].  In the reading, it mentions that the more traumatized someone is, the more significant this is, and it states that trauma is often a factor of suddenness or speed of the event.  There is however a reference to trauma being active in situations that are not only dangerous and fast, but in which the person feels profoundly helpless to alter the events in the moment.  In this case, having someones memory be significantly amplified or not based on their perceived helplessness is extremely interesting to me.  It would imply that life threatening situations in which one has perceived agency are not as significant in terms of inducing trauma, and not as significant with coding precise memories.  In later stages of the reading it is stated that imprecise memories are more adaptive to dangerous situations [like the cave man example], and therefore rote memory is less adaptive.  Yet, we see this example of more rote memory in a situation in which not having a recurrence of the event is obviously more important [helpless to danger].  The reading also gives the example that the more rote someones memory is, the more they tend to have 'flashbacks' of the events when prompted in similar and inappropriate situations alike [giving credit to their theory of it being maladaptive]. &lt;br /&gt;    This issue made me wonder on people's ability to not be traumatized.  That is, how is a persons memory and how they remember the event affecting how noticeably traumatized they are, and in fact, how generally traumatized they are.  Because a person may not be 'traumatized' by the one event, but having to continually relive the event at even the most moderate cues, and then to remember it so vividly could cause them to be traumatized where they would not have otherwise [especially in the long term, ie. 15-20 years later]. &lt;br /&gt;    As one might imagine, i thought of some of my own brushes with danger, and my ability to remember them in depth vs. how often they are cued and how much do i perceive them haunting me.  My personal findings did not concur with the theory here, but thats just me, and i would like to talk in class or read peoples blog about their personal feelings on memory and its connection to trauma or distress or pain. &lt;br /&gt;    On a smaller note, i was wondering how people who are blind remember momentous events, which are apparently heavily visual memories.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8315893828351194257?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8315893828351194257/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8315893828351194257' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8315893828351194257'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8315893828351194257'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/comments-on-pillemer.html' title='comments on Pillemer'/><author><name>geoffrey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00413045543815992231</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4593916839771577965</id><published>2007-10-07T21:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-07T21:57:55.650-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Luria, S., and Pillemer</title><content type='html'>S. “wasn't aware of any peculiarities in himself and couldn't conceive of the idea that his memory differed in some way from other people's.”  He believed everyone's mind functioned the same way, and that we all had to deal equally as often with the difficulties of his synesthesia and eidetic memory.  This led me to think about how common—if not universal, to some extent—this experience must be.  I would imagine that only those young adults with a very special empathy would assume a priori that all people experience life in vastly different ways.  (I recognize that this comment as well as many—or all—of my others are colored by my subjective experience of life, and that all my statements about the minds of others are just my mind's best attempt at the most accurate of conjecture.)  I would also imagine that no two people perceive, retain, and remember events, systems, and actions in the same way.  This is not to say that the difference between my experience and my roommate's experience is anywhere near the size of the difference between mine and S.'s experience; his experiences are so markedly different that one must use several hard to pronounce conditions to approximate S's world.  But this does start my thought process moving down the slippery slope toward suggesting that there may not be enough shared experience in terms of perception and memory to formulate any sort of more realistic picture of human memory.  Are there enough commonalities to get past the most vague conception of schemata?  Does my memory work similarly enough to yours to allow us to gain anything by studying different interpretations of the “human memory?”  Is there anything resembling a normal human memory?  Can (and I guess I'm with my buddy Neisser on this one) we really learn anything truly meaningful about memory without obtaining an in-depth study—the detail of which approaching Luria's study of S.—of every living human being?  Can we generalize anything beyond asserting, “&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;This&lt;/span&gt; method worked for &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; subject on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt; occasion but on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;that&lt;/span&gt; occasion it was different”?&lt;br /&gt;Okay.  Enough of my subjective epistemological break down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All that said, I really appreciated Luria's account, mixing a great deal of phenomenological data with ample experimental/lab data.  I cannot help but lean in the direction of saying this may be the best way to figure out what commonalities we do share.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was also extremely fascinated by S.'s control over his body—his body temperature, heartbeat, etc.  If he could learn and perfect certain techniques of his visual memory, can we “normal people” learn to do the same?  And if so, can we learn to use these images to the extent that S. could, and so learn to control our body temperatures?  What were the limits of his bodily control?  What are the limits of ours?  Levitating monks, anyone?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the section titled Momentous Events, does Pillemer really say anything beyond, “We often remember the things that seem the most important to us”?  Of course someone is more likely to remember a moment when their life is “abruptly and violently altered,” if they actually experienced an earth quake or perceive themselves as directly related to the news they hear, if the moment initiates a “major life transition,” or comes at a time of life-altering personal insight.  I know that Neisser would scoff at this section of the chapter.  The funny thing is how often Neisser is cited—and how banal the summaries of the conclusions of his studies are.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4593916839771577965?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4593916839771577965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4593916839771577965' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4593916839771577965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4593916839771577965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/luria-s-and-pillemer.html' title='Luria, S., and Pillemer'/><author><name>Cory Antiel</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10873597510179514332</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4596504036965606454</id><published>2007-10-07T19:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-07T20:16:02.806-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thoughts (conflicting ones) on the mnemonist.</title><content type='html'>Almost naturally, it seems to me, the portion of this week's reading about which I can say the most is from Luria's Mind of a Mnemonist. As in any field that is such an enigma and is still in a state of being constantly researched and newly understood as memory, the best way to attempt to understand certain radical concepts, such as "S."'s case, is by means of comparison. One of the aspects of Luria's findings on S. that struck me the most was his investigations into the "omissions" of certain parts of his memory. There were concrete, immediate, simple, and almost, dare I say, superficial explanations for why he would omit certain words (or numbers, or nonsense syllables, or characters in a series, etc.), such as the word "egg" and its corresponding synesthetic image being set against a white background in the "field" that S. used to set up the items he needed to recall. But could there be a deeper reason, so to speak, for setting it against that part of the background? This is where the important aspect of comparison comes in. In normally-structured human memory, there is always some sort of reason, whether or not it in itself is explicable, why we remember the things that we do; the reason could be based on associations, poignancy, novel characteristics of the remembered thing, etc. And in laboratory experiments with normal memory, it is one of the centers of focus to, as Luria puts it, test the "limits" of the memory, and observe what remembered versus what was forgotten; and in normal memory, more (overall) will be forgotten than remembered. This is the inverse of what had to be done to experiment with forgetting in "S."; understanding why he "forgot" (or rather, omitted) certain things was much harder to understand than why he remembered them. He would omit the word "egg", for example, in a certain test series because he set it in a certain place on his psychic field for remembering, but why? Is it not shown by Luria that his process of remembering so diligent that it carefully constructs a background with the aim of remembering everything perfectly? Could words like "egg" and other ones that were omitted somehow, in a way that was not consciously recognizable, conjure up some sort of feeling or association that S. would inadvertently, but certainly, avoid and that would ultimately lead him to subconsciously set the word in a part of his psychic field that would be inevitably overlooked? Perhaps his mother was cooking him eggs for breakfast one morning when he was a boy, and for whatever reason, while she was cooking or while he was eating, sher became angry with him and the boy was very hurt by this. Is it then possible that he could associate the word "egg" with that fight, without realizing it, and, not wanting to relive the memory of this fight, unconsciously place the word "egg" in a place where it would not be remembered? In the case of normal memory, an association like this would be a cause for specifically REMEMBERING something - just the opposite of the case I pose for S. But in the case of S., where everything is so diligently and specifically encoded, the concept of forgetting, or omitting, and not remembering, brings up the most questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And with that, I am now compelled to do something strange and argue against my own case. For S., it seems that his subconsious mind, or the details of his "schema" (to use the term loosely and with caution) is much, much more accesible in daily, waking life (Luria compares his mental, visual field of memory to a dream during sleep) than other persons' subconscious minds. Normal humans make memories, in part, by making associations, but often the associations are not vividly brought to mind - people just remember certain things more so than, or rather than, others, but often can't really explain why, or can do so only vaguely. But S. makes vivid, detailed, extravagant associations in remembering, such as associating the Italian word "nostra" by breaking the syllables down into words (or words similar to those) in Russian and making an image of them - for "nostra, a man tripping and falling and a doorway pinching his nose. The associations that would normally be subconscious or unconscious in normal memory structures are effortlessly in the forefront of S.'s mind. So here we run into the contradiction to my earlier case - does S. even HAVE a subconscious, so to speak? For not only does he readily associate the given words that he must recall with vivid, completely conscious images, but these images are usually all hypothetical - as in, they don't correspond to a specific memory, such as (as a theory) a boy getting into and argument with his mothger while eating eggs. Is perhaps another itegral aspect in the workings of S.'s mind an abnormally large capacity for creativity? More support for S. not having a subconscious mind in the conventional sense comes from the fact that, as is made clear throughout Luria's book, S. cannot condense details into a general memory with a deeper meaning behind it, because those details are virtually unforgettable and he is constantly bogged down by them. So would he even have memories with enough (or any) emotion and poignancy attached to them to be able to make subconscious associations that ultimately lead to omission at all?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(I was on the debate team throughout high school and always had to write both affirmative and negative cases on the topic that we were given. I guess - forgive the cliché - old habits die hard. At least it seems that it will spark some good discussion... I hope.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4596504036965606454?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4596504036965606454/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4596504036965606454' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4596504036965606454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4596504036965606454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/almost-naturally-it-seems-to-me-portion.html' title='Thoughts (conflicting ones) on the mnemonist.'/><author><name>Annie Alden James</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12422941886935256165</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2482741370709906983</id><published>2007-10-06T14:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-06T14:28:47.551-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 3 Blog (sorry so late)</title><content type='html'>So sorry this is late. My computer has been down, along with all of my saved work. It's back now and let's hope it stays that way!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After reading Schacter, I started thinking about memory consolidation as well. Like Bailey, I was always told by dance teachers to go over combinations, phrases and everything in my head before falling asleep. When I was younger this was really hard for me because, lying in bed trying to do a dance combination without actually doing it felt impossible. I had a hard time lying still when I was moving in my head. It’s easier now, and I think it does help me to remember. But it is a different thing if I’m trying to remember what I read that day, or things for a test compared to going over a physical thing without the physical aspect. I’m also curious about how consolidation when we are awake affects memory while we sleep. When I do run over dance combinations in my head before sleep, sometimes I find myself even more exhausted afterward, before sleeping. Does this affect how I feel the next morning, or in those instances when I do wake from vivid dreams exhausted because the dream was physically exhausting?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2482741370709906983?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2482741370709906983/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2482741370709906983' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2482741370709906983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2482741370709906983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/october-3-blog-sorry-so-late.html' title='October 3 Blog (sorry so late)'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8404097995669391299</id><published>2007-10-03T08:49:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-03T09:03:46.119-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Reading for 10/3</title><content type='html'>After reading this week's reading I started thinking about people who go on the witness stand, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; the importance of a statement.  A couple years ago I was involved in a car accident myself, and my Mom had me write out a statement the minute I got home. This was so I wouldn't forge any detail. Luckily, I never had to testify, but the insurance company did take my statement. Had I been asked to recall the accident the way people in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Shacter's&lt;/span&gt; experiment were, I would have forgotten the details. To this day I still remember what happened, but I'm sure if I recalled the story now I would surely forget something. &lt;br /&gt;     The same thing goes for a witness. They have to write out a statement as soon as the police call them in, and the lawyers get a copy of the statement. Now, these are written out to make sure the witness doesn't lie, but sometimes a witness can &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;accidentally&lt;/span&gt; go off of their &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;statement&lt;/span&gt; just because they forgot certain parts of the event. Court dates are usually a year or so later after the crime &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;occurred&lt;/span&gt;.  According to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Shacter's&lt;/span&gt; findings this would make it very hard for the person to recall the details of the crime that had taken place.  This is why it's of such high importance that a witness statement is taken so close to the event. Otherwise, nobody would be able to testify properly.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8404097995669391299?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8404097995669391299/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8404097995669391299' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8404097995669391299'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8404097995669391299'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/reading-for-103.html' title='Reading for 10/3'/><author><name>Quinci</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13324501630395372596</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4692281970944901805</id><published>2007-10-02T20:21:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-02T20:33:52.554-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Memory Consolidation</title><content type='html'>After reading Schacter I began to think about sleeping and the effects it may have on memory consolidation of autobiographical memories.  Aside from long term memory consolidation I wonder whether or not sleep plays a role in all forms of memory consolidation.  In music class when I was younger, our teacher told us to sing the songs that we had learned in class that day before falling asleep and we would remember them better.  Ever since then, I have gone over things I need to remember right before falling asleep and it has always helped to solidify them in my mind.  Music certainly doesn't fall into the episodic autobiographical memory realm.  I wonder if the sleeping on it approach works for kinesthetic memories and learning specific tasks.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4692281970944901805?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4692281970944901805/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4692281970944901805' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4692281970944901805'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4692281970944901805'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/memory-consolidation.html' title='Memory Consolidation'/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6638314243482450483</id><published>2007-10-02T00:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-02T01:37:12.093-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Impressionability</title><content type='html'>This week’s readings generated several questions that I figured would be addressed in further readings, but perhaps they would be difficult to answer in concrete terms. The chapters we read about Bartlett’s experimentation on reproduction were rather verbose, but I understood from his research that humans have a tendency to compartmentalize experiences based on generalized notions of how one thing has occurred in relation to another, and that this act of comparison inherently occurs in our minds whether we are conscious of it or not. This concept of interdependency was apparent throughout all of the readings, and it seems to transcend all aspects of memory; we cannot pin down why we remember what we remember to one single entity because our memories are not a product of any one specific cause. Every memory is both conditioned and conditioning. Although I feel that Bartlett’s experimentation might be a little dated, I think that his research does provide valid and relevant information. It seems that it is necessary to further personalize this type of experimentation; I think it would be interesting to test an individual’s reproduction based on events that were markedly traumatic or personally recognized as “memorable” after several years had passed since their occurrence. To be able to trace every correspondence that had an effect on the construction of this memory would be another endeavor entirely, and I’m not sure how one would go about it, but it would seem quite relevant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After reading about Korsakoff’s syndrome in Schacter’s “Of Time and Autobiography” chapter, I contemplated the idea of long-term consolidation. How does writing down one’s personal experiences affect their recollection of these memories in the future? It would be interesting to test this question by studying subjects that write in personal journals or diaries on a daily basis (not simply college students that have been asked to write down a few notable things they did during the day and ask them to recall this information later). It would be especially remarkable to see how accurately subjects could recall their emotional versus physical actions and reactions. Schacter posits that “Memory consolidation during sleep is likely influenced by what we think about and talk about while awake” (88). This seems tangible, but does one action (thinking) have greater influence over another action (talking) in this type of memory consolidation? To what extent are the memories that we consolidate during sleep affected by these actions? And how does this relate to the dreams that we have? Sometimes I wake from dreams that are so vivid and feel so real that it is difficult for me to accept that they haven’t actually occurred.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The one thing I kept thinking about after reading Rubin’s chapter was the pattern of the novice hero. Although this may be a rhetorical statement, I’d like to know if it is possible to trace these patterns in all forms of media. Is there a pattern or generalized notion of how news is reported on television and in newspaper or magazine articles? Can we also trace plot patterns in various movies?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6638314243482450483?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6638314243482450483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6638314243482450483' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6638314243482450483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6638314243482450483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/impressionability.html' title='Impressionability'/><author><name>Nadia</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12674101153868086233</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6167597828863444210</id><published>2007-10-01T02:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-01T02:49:55.577-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Importance of Accuracy</title><content type='html'>In this week’s reading, Bartlett discusses the complex process of creating and accessing a memory. As opposed to Ebbinghaus who explains memory as a collection of static articulated details, or “traces” in the brain, Bartlett’s “schema” is an active living thing that operates as a unitary mass. Citing experiments that much more closely resemble real life applications of memory, Bartlett contends that phenomena such as condensation, elaboration, and invention are actually quite common features of ordinary remembering. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While these characteristics may seem undesirable, they are a product of the constantly changing nature of the schema. Memories are not complete little moments that can be picked out and accessed as accurate reproductions. On the contrary, memories are constantly changing and being accessed in different way. Depending on personal attitude, the context of the remembering, and personal interest, different aspects of a memory will come to mind. Along that same line, attitude or personal character is tied up with memory. From the moment we are born our experiences shape our character and therefore dictate how we interact with the world. But exactly how much is our identity shaped by our memory? Does amnesia wipe out a part of your personality along with your memory? Can we experience self-awareness or experience emotions without creating new memories?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Searching for Memory chapters, Schacter describes instances in which the plasticity of memory can betray us. Though he makes a point of saying that only rarely do inaccurate memories result in tragedy, the examples he gives are truly frightening. While the stories of innocent people being wrongly imprisoned were horrible, I felt that not enough attention was paid to the other victim: the witness. Especially in the cases of false accusations of child molestation, is the child not even more of a victim than the adult? Though the children in these cases were presumably not molested, they were made to believe that they had been. Is an inaccurate memory of being sexually molested any less damaging than one based on actual events? And is it ethical to test the subjectivity of a child’s mind by planting a memory of having to go the hospital with a badly injured hand?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6167597828863444210?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6167597828863444210/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6167597828863444210' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6167597828863444210'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6167597828863444210'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/10/importance-of-accuracy.html' title='The Importance of Accuracy'/><author><name>Carolyn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09289950663220834402</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-7937408986386783445</id><published>2007-09-30T18:35:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-30T18:59:12.804-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Relating False Memories to Schizophrenia</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;When I read Schacter's description of false memories, I related the concept of false memories to schizophrenia. Is it possible that the chemicals or regions in the brain that create false memories are crucial also in creating the hallucinations in Schizophrenia or any other psychological illness? For the sake of my argument, I will only relate false memories and schizophrenia. From what I've read, there isn't much definitive knowledge about the disorder, leaving the door open for questions. We know basic chemical interactions, some medications that work, and that somehow dopamine and dopamine receptors cause the disorder. Beyond that, we haven't been able to define the disorder. We don't know, for instance, which of the many kinds of dopamine receptors are important, or even how they work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A leading commonality between the two is belief. The person remembering or the schizophrenic has absolute confidence that the event did/ is happening. This complete belief in one's own mind, when perception of events is considerably skewed, is a rare enough occurrence to warrant more investigation. I am, of course, relating an everyday occurrence and an extreme case, but I believe that all disorders are just exaggerated qualities of a normal personality.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Are the regions of the brain affected similarly? What chemicals are in play when these memories are recalled? Some of the same regions thought to be affected by schizophrenia (the hippocampus for example) are critical memory structures. There is not enough research on the physiology of memory to be able to compare the two, but again, a connection exists.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;Research into these questions could lead to an advance in medicine. Finding more about the relationship between serotonin and emotion helped in the development of depression medication. Maybe finding the key to false memories will lead to a better treatment of schizophrenia. Or maybe, identifying what makes a false memory can remove the possibility of one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;I want to know why false memories exist, how we can believe in them. Are they protecting us from something? Or is it an occurrence of a slight chemical imbalance that is quickly corrected?  From there I start to think of more existential questions, but those hardly relate to the topic at hand.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0in;"&gt;I realize I've made huge assumptions about both topics, so criticism is to be expected. Other things in the reading struck me, but they didn't lead to the same type of questions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-7937408986386783445?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/7937408986386783445/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=7937408986386783445' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/7937408986386783445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/7937408986386783445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/relating-false-memories-to.html' title='Relating False Memories to Schizophrenia'/><author><name>Julia Petre</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12288619579290965932</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6510711917826316132</id><published>2007-09-30T16:19:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-30T16:19:31.249-07:00</updated><title type='text'>reproduction in memory research</title><content type='html'>One question which I have continued to have in response to our first data collection experiment, and in response to Bartlett’s paper on similar experiments, has to do with the issue of remembering versus recognition. We have discussed several times in class, and in online postings, the issue of the psychologist’s inability to reproduce a thoroughly convincing simulation of everyday instances in which memory is being used. Ebbinghaus seems to have neglected this issue by experimenting with a set of variables that, although controlled, are difficult to apply to ordinary memory. However, despite the seemingly short-sighted nature of these controlled variable experiments, they have proven to be useful in their nature of quantification of data that has otherwise been too difficult to quantify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My question is in regards to Bartlett’s experiments on reproduction (and the similar experiment which our class is currently analyzing). Bartlett gives many engaging examples of instances in which his subject has forgotten, changed, or altered the material in some way. The most notable examples to me are the subjects he mentions testing over extended periods of time, sometimes even years.  Ebbinghaus’ experiments with the nonsensical syllables revealed to us that most of what someone is going to forget they forget within the first few minutes. Bartlett’s experiments, while going into more detail on the specifics of each aspect of the story which he was testing, also revealed that after the first reproduction the changes to the story stayed more constant. Any thematic or stylistic changes were already made, or on their way to being fully formed by the first reproduction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My question is what role the act of reproduction plays in these experiments. Bartlett shows us that when someone doesn’t reproduce the story for many years they may still remember certain parts (which vary on an individual basis). The experiment seems to act as a very interesting view into the methods of reproduction and the ways in which certain people in a certain society reconcile the faults they find in a story. The experiment also tests which elements of a story a subject is most inclined to initially reproduce. For example, if a subject initially leaves out the proper nouns in a story they will probably not re-introduce them. The subject’s ability to remember a specific detail from the story relies on  the subject’s initial ability to reproduce that detail (with few exceptions where the subject reintroduced details they previously left out). I think that this is key to note because it highlights the influence of the reproduction in the subject’s ability to remember a given detail. The act of reproduction is often a tool used for remembering something (for example taking notes in class or from a book or making a study guide). The instances when the subjects did add in information they had previously left out of the story was most striking to me because it revealed the workings of that person’s memory. For example someone may have a feeling of a rock, but they initially leave the rock out. Several weeks or months or years later, however, they will have forgotten that that rock was not in the story, but the feeling they initially had of the rock being present remains, and thus they put the rock into their reproduction of the story. I would find it hard to believe that in their initial reproduction if someone thinks about the rock’s place (or lack of place) in the story, this thought process doesn’t resonate and linger until later reproductions. Although someone may not remember that the initial story didn’t have a rock in it, they may be very likely to remember that their initial reproduction didn’t have a rock in it. This is the issue I have with the place of reproduction in experiments testing memory.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6510711917826316132?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6510711917826316132/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6510711917826316132' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6510711917826316132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6510711917826316132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/reproduction-in-memory-research.html' title='reproduction in memory research'/><author><name>Catie</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hH19f5LMp7w/Sc-g_5PBo8I/AAAAAAAAAHU/t3ynodB_XMg/S220/09790010.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-922268589162421311</id><published>2007-09-30T15:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-30T15:32:45.702-07:00</updated><title type='text'>October 3 --- Bartlett</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;            Perhaps the most profound concept of memory present in &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Bartlett&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;’s writings was that of a schema, which he defines as “an active organization of part reactions, or of past experiences, which must always be supposed to be operating in any well-adapted organic response.” This acts as a sort of filter through which all memories pass through when being remembered, due to its very nature, is constantly adjusted as individuals have more reactions and more experiences. As I read through Bartlett’s readings, I thought about the chapters in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Schacter&lt;/span&gt;’s book I had just read and his discussion of the effects of time on memory, which ultimately presented the ideas that “time is the enemy of memory” and that distortions and failures of memory are somewhat inevitable. When put in the same context as Bartlett’s ideas, it brought to mind a conversation I had this past summer with my aunt during which she told me she’d read that when we remember things, we are really only remembering our last memory of them, an idea we have also briefly touched upon in class. This seems to give the schema even more importance, for the schema someone has at the moment they recall a specific memory will, it seems, shape the next recollection they have of the same memory. Consequently, if a memory is cued and recalled today, will it be remembered differently than if it were cued and recalled in a year, simply because the schema that would filter this memory would be different? Based on this week’s readings, I would have to assume that the answer to that question is yes. &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Another thing I found particularly interesting was the idea of false memories that was presented in Chapter 4 of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Schacter&lt;/span&gt;’s book. While he did briefly mention the idea of adults have false memories, especially upon cuing, like the Bavarian monk who thought he saw a dragon, he focused primarily on recounting example of children who create false memories. This made me wonder about the neuroscience behind creating false memories. In the instance of the woman who mistook a psychologist for a rapist, a certain deal of trauma (and possibly head injury) must have been involved to stimulate such a mistake. Patients with brain damage are also mentioned in reference to amnesia and memory failure. Does neuroscience play a role in the memory failures of children as well? Because the brain structures in children are still developing, it seems likely that immature brain structures would have an effect on proper functioning. How susceptible are children versus adults to recall false memories? How vulnerable are they to cuing to create false memories? And, most importantly, what brain structures and functions are responsible for such actions? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-922268589162421311?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/922268589162421311/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=922268589162421311' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/922268589162421311'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/922268589162421311'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/october-3-bartlett.html' title='October 3 --- Bartlett'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-6879613456009606965</id><published>2007-09-25T19:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-25T19:16:23.105-07:00</updated><title type='text'>September 26th--Episodic Buffer</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The article on the episodic buffer was the most intriguing part of this week’s readings, specifically the concept of amnesic patients being able to recall certain events that one would expect them to not be able to (in this case, to play a good game of bridge, which involves keeping track of the contract as well as which cards have already been played). Previous readings have described two main types of amnesia: anterograde, where new information cannot be remembered, and retrograde, where previous memories are lost. This example of being able to play a good game of bridges seems to fall in some unidentified middle ground, for previous memories must, essentially, be used to play the game correctly, and a new memory must be formed to continue to play the game. This makes the concept of working memory, especially the idea of an episodic buffer proposed in this article, particularly interesting for it makes one wonder what exactly constitutes working memory. It seems to exceed the previous notions of what working memory is but falls short of the capabilities that we typically think an amnesic patient possesses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-6879613456009606965?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/6879613456009606965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=6879613456009606965' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6879613456009606965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/6879613456009606965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-26th-episodic-buffer.html' title='September 26th--Episodic Buffer'/><author><name>Sylviane</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13243672515219174007</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-5732895155919186539</id><published>2007-09-24T21:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-24T22:10:05.782-07:00</updated><title type='text'>September 26th... the cues for memory</title><content type='html'>Sorry this is coming in so late, I meant to write on Sunday after finishing the readings but got distracted and (well) forgot... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me cueing was one of the most interesting concepts in the reading.  For most things in life, we are supplied with cues to remember information even when unaware of it.  A face can become a cue for a given name, or vice versa a name for a certain face associated with that particular name.  After studying  (or cramming as the case may be) for an exam, the questions on the exam become the cue for your answers.  In high school had a history exam been presented as one phrase "write what you remember" I probably would not have done very well.  I would have recalled the things read most carefully, probably the key points while details would be lacking especially if the question was so broad.  However, we are never presented with such vague questions.  We are given essays with reminders, and multiple choice questions that will begin your mind working.  In the American Revolution who crossed the Hudson river?  The questions hold cues that give your mind the ability to sift through all of the information lying dormant.  A normal conversation will take people back through memories of days or even years past.  Even walking past something we've seen hundreds of times or something that looks like that object can bring us on a journey, all in a matter of seconds.  The initial 30 seconds of a song can cue all of the words or the name of the singer.  It can cue memories of the first or last time you heard the song.  If studying to music, it can become a cue for information.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And each brain holds a billion different cues.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Love is like a butterfly&lt;/span&gt; (a song by Dolly Parton) playing on the radio will trigger memories of me and my mom sitting in a car for a road trip, but for other summon nothing, or something negative.  It all depends on individual experience.  This would make experiments of all kinds extremely difficult.  Therefore knowing the basic background of subjects in experiments can be very important.  A linguistics major may be able to place meaning to nonsense syllables and come up with a method for remembering, as will an avid runner, or sport player, a musician.  Everyone has their own vices and procedures for remembering things.  These procedures could in themselves be interesting to study because they can show how different people filter information which leads to memory to begin with. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This led me to wonder how exactly a cue is created and why.  What makes a particular cue be able to summon images of ten years ago in bright vivid color while others only get a vague response with barely there images and just a feeling of well being?  Were these conscious efforts of when something was happening or just something our brain filters at random? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can you create a cue after you have already seemingly forgotten a piece of information?  Can you force yourself to remember something or will you simply reconstruct a false memory from what you can remember if you try too hard?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-5732895155919186539?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/5732895155919186539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=5732895155919186539' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5732895155919186539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5732895155919186539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-26th-cues-for-memory.html' title='September 26th... the cues for memory'/><author><name>always Ali</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4EvSwshXF7Q/SeQDEJsUDvI/AAAAAAAAAAM/64trA9ZgNCU/S220/P1030260.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4200017795220325414</id><published>2007-09-24T19:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-24T20:05:47.410-07:00</updated><title type='text'>September 26th Post (a little late...)</title><content type='html'>Most of what I would like to discuss doesn't center on anything specifically in the readings, more just some basic ideas that were throughout and on what has been happening with the research we've been doing outside of class (the story project). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While all of these studies—release-from-proactive-interference, cue-dependent-forgetting, etc.—posit interesting and seemingly accurate theories onto how our memory seems to work, what if they are all missing something.  Collecting the research for the story project made me wonder, what if every one of these tests is suffering from the same bias?  Doesn't the knowledge that you are participating in a psychological study on memory, particularly in the case of the story, make you approach the whole situation differently?  Even without the understanding that it is a study on memory you are still stuck into a position that is testing you in some way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is ridiculous for me to claim that all experimental psychology is biased and unreliable by virtue of the fact that it is a psychological experiment.  That is in no way what I am claiming here; I think it's obvious that these structured experiments have plenty to offer to the understanding of memory as well as many other aspects of psychology.  What I find interesting is the idea that perhaps we will never get to the truth of how our minds really work by putting them in these artificial and structured situations.  Rubin is very interested in getting to the root of how memory functions in oral histories and how the findings from the lab experiments reveal things (or don't) about this process.  Perhaps the problem with all of it is that we cannot get to a more complete understanding of this process with the experiments structured the way they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What prompted me into this line of thinking was when I gave the story experiment to one of my friends.  I told her (probably mistakenly) that it was for my Memory Research Seminar class.  It completely changed the way she had been reading the story.  At first she was reading normally and as soon as she had the knowledge that it was for a psychology course—much less one on memory—she began asking for quiet and seemed much more focused (without actually breaking any of the rules of the experiment).  I would be curious to see what would happen if the experiment was done without the absolute knowledge of the participant, and what everyone thinks the result—whatever it might be—signifies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't have an answer to any of these questions, nor do I have a purported alternative.  I think it is something, though, that would be interesting to explore further and I'm curious to see what everyone thinks of the idea.  Would it be a problem?  Does it even matter?  Would we gain any new knowledge from conducting these experiments in a different manner?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4200017795220325414?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4200017795220325414/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4200017795220325414' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4200017795220325414'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4200017795220325414'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-26th-post-little-late.html' title='September 26th Post (a little late...)'/><author><name>Shelby</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08341253686073820004</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-5270727133714883349</id><published>2007-09-23T22:31:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-24T06:30:13.248-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Response to Sept 26th reading</title><content type='html'>There were several things that peaked my interest in the last reading One was the concept of cuing. This concept explains that memories that can seem forgotten forever, can be recovered with the proper cue. Something else that's interesting, is that the stronger the cue, the stronger the memory. For example; If I smell vegetable soup it propels me back to my childhood at some point when I would eat this really good vegetable soup. I can't remember who made it for me, or where I was, but I remember that soup. Now, had the cue been stronger I might have been able to remember all the details of my soup meal, including who made it and where.&lt;br /&gt;     Another great point in the reading was the reason people forgot things. In &lt;em&gt;Basic Observations on Remembering &lt;/em&gt;Rubin states "Rather than time, changes in the environment and intervening activity have been examined as the causes of forgetting"(pg. 157 Rubin).  A little earlier he says this is necessary because time does not explain the minimal loss of memory in oral traditions. I thought this was a very good point for several reasons. It's interesting because one of the biggest reasons I feel like I forget things is time. Why don't I remember that trip to Disneyland when I was 8 with the family? Or one of the countless field trips I took in elementary school? I always thought because as time went on, the memory started to fade.  This all seems logical but then it leads to the question of  how all of our ancestors could remember story after story to be passed down through there generations for hundreds of years.&lt;br /&gt;     This is where Rubin's experiment starts to come in. First of all "activity that reduces recall is termed &lt;em&gt;interference&lt;/em&gt;" (pg. 147).  There are a couple different types of interference: proactive and retroactive. The first being the interference that takes place before someone remembers something, and retroactive takes place after someone has tried to remember something, but before they try to recall it again.  One thing he found was that interference similar to whatever was being remembered gave people a lot more trouble than something that had nothing to do with it.  This makes a lot of sense because it becomes very easy to become confused and end up forgetting both the interference, and the original item to be remembered. &lt;br /&gt;     There are obviously a myriad of reasons people forget things but it's interesting to know what a few of those reasons are.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-5270727133714883349?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/5270727133714883349/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=5270727133714883349' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5270727133714883349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/5270727133714883349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/response-to-sept-26th-reading.html' title='Response to Sept 26th reading'/><author><name>Quinci</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13324501630395372596</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1798309381867251643</id><published>2007-09-23T20:17:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-23T20:17:57.145-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>What struck me the most about the reading were the experiments that were talked about in the two packets, “Experimental Studies” and “Basic Observations on Remembering.”  While first reading about the different experiments, all I could think about was how the paper said that they were great breakthroughs in the field of memory research, yet to me they seemed to barely scratch the surface of the questions that I would want to answer in order to have a psychologically based working model of the different types of memory.  &lt;br /&gt;Since I have a lot of background in the sciences I am well versed in the idea of a scientific experiment and the importance of independent and dependent variables as well as the idea of holding variables constant.  The Ebbinghaus experiments and the many different experiments performed on interference theory were all very ingeniously created and obviously based in a scientific experimental model.  The Ebbinghaus experiment used non-sense syllables to try and hold the variable of experience constant, since the subjects would no have already formed ideas or impressions about the words that may later sway their results.  Ebbinhaus thought that if the experiment used non-sense syllables which theoretically had no previous meanings of associations for the test subjects than any significance accrued during the experiment was significant.  The experiments conducted on interference theory always used the same lists in the experiments, and seemed to use a very large sample pool.  &lt;br /&gt;These experiments are very simplistic and only seem to examine a very small specific aspect of the human memory.  The problem seems to be that in order to keep with the scientific model and hold as many variables constant as possible the experiments must be organized like that.  I guess that this model is necessary if you want to have results that can be generalizations and be applied to a model of the working memory.  Both papers address this issue and how it is impossible to hold many variables constant, which is just an inevitability when working with the human mind.  &lt;br /&gt;So many millions of factors could affect someone’s memory.  One subject could be having a bad day or not have gotten enough sleep and not perform as well.  Another subject might be a biologist so the list of vegetables may have more significance to him and he would remember the items for longer because they had more significance.  Even the person conducting the experiment could unconsciously place more emphasis on some words, making them later stick out in the subjects mind.  There is much a multitude of variables it seems like not only could they not all be controlled, we might not even be able to think of a lot of them.    &lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that the only way to make the results as unbiased as possible is the test as many people as possible.  The more results are averaged in, the less likely the random differences between people will affect the overall results, and the more likely it is that a pattern will emerge.  After reading about the experiments I tried to think of ways in which experiments could be designed to study more complex aspects of memory and I could not think of any.  People come from such different backgrounds, have such different minds, and such different ways of dealing with the world that it seems impossible to test memory in more complex ways except by doing case studies.  I wonder if it would be possible to come up with an in-depth explanation for the different types of memory that was applicable to the general population.  I know that the results from those simplistic experiments are applicable to a general memory model but they don’t seem to go deep enough.  I guess I just ended up somewhat frustrated by my realization at how complex the mind was and how hard it is to study it.  I hope that this made sense and wasn’t to scattered.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1798309381867251643?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1798309381867251643/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1798309381867251643' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1798309381867251643'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1798309381867251643'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-struck-me-most-about-reading-were.html' title=''/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1571620944531241622</id><published>2007-09-23T11:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-23T11:47:12.809-07:00</updated><title type='text'>September 26th Blog</title><content type='html'>I apologize if my thoughts skip around too much, or if this is too scattered!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While reading Bourtchouladze's descriptions of primary memory and secondary memory, a few questions came to mind: which do we use the most, and is there a difference in interest that determines which we use the most? So of course I'm thinking in terms of what I know, trying to relate all of this to my own life. So I'm thinking in terms of dance. Do dancers rely on secondary memory more then non-dancers? Some say that dancing is like riding a bike, once you retain the knowledge of say, what a plie is, you always have it. Others say that you must continue to practice or you lose it. What, then is "muscle memory"? A form of secondary memory? It makes sense then, that those dancers who pick up on movement, rhythm, etc, faster, are more reliant on their short term memories, and could not show you what they learned the next day. But those who take longer to possess the movement, who need to do it many times, are those who will remember the next day, next week. "He who learns quickly also forgets quickly" then makes sense. Short-term memory does not last as long, even though it is valued so much more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I think of which of these types of memory are valued more, it also includes declarative and non-declarative, episodic and semantic. Do we value memories of times, places and contexts, or are we more prone to those of skills, habits, and more importantly, emotions? Sometimes it may be the case of which do we pay more attention to. Since semantic memories are habits and general skills, we pay little attention to them. So it seems that episodic memories are the ones given the most attention. All those questions like "your first childhood memory" or "what you did Friday night," are episodic. I think we pay more attention to the fact that we are remembering when we are remembering an episodic memory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was drawn to the Charles Dickens quote, "In this life, we want nothing but Facts, nothing but Facts!" I’m wondering if this is true all the time. It seems to me that we want a mixture of both. I also think it is subjective and circumstantial. When I’m listening to someone tell a story, I’m drawn to the emotional aspect, what they were feeling, reactions, etc. However when I’m in a classroom, I like facts. But I am also always thinking of how I relate to these facts and how they connect with my life. I think trying to separate the two is what is driving me crazy. I want to think in terms of either one or the other, and what I need to focus more on is the fusion of the two. Bourtchouladze says that memory is a system, therefore things work together. In categorizing memory, I tend to separate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ebbinghaus speaks of whether or not we use our long term or short term depends on how mush we do it, how interested we are when we do it and whether or not we keep doing it. And so, those who spend the majority of their lives dancing will never forget, whereas those who do it for a short period of time are more likely to forget? Are we able to say that this trace decay happens all the time and to everyone? And what if we involved cueing? With the right cues, can we recall something and have it be as fresh in our minds as the day we learned it? If I were able to see an old dance combination once, one that was practiced and rehearsed numerous times, I could probably remember most of it, if not all of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brings to mind the question about consolidation, the "transformation of memory from short-term to long-term". I’m wondering when this happens. How many times do we hear a song before we know the words by heart? How many times do I have to do a combination before I can do it on my own without any guidance from a teacher? And it’s not the same for everything. I can retain a dance combination much faster then I can memorize a math problem. Does this depend on what type of learner you are (auditory, visual, kinesthetic), or is it really dependent on what interests you?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1571620944531241622?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1571620944531241622/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1571620944531241622' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1571620944531241622'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1571620944531241622'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-26th-blog.html' title='September 26th Blog'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-3530873137284696731</id><published>2007-09-18T20:51:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-18T20:51:36.389-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;I thought that the most interesting part of the reading was the different aspects of memory that Schacter identified in his book.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;My memory seems like a jumbled unorganized mass of events and emotions that I can never recall at the right times, but always comes back to me at the wrong times.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I found the ideas of field and observer memories very interesting as well as remembering and knowing memories.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While reading these concepts and thinking about my own memories I was able to better organize and understand some memories of mine.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I have a very hard time remembering events from my childhood, and one problem that I have always noticed is that when trying to remember things, I always end up remembering what I initially think of as memories.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After thinking about it further, I realize that I am really remembering photos taken of me as a child, adding a story to them, and then thinking that they are memories.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;I also found the discussion of computers as rememberers very interesting.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I do not know much about computers but I disagree with the cognitive scientists who think that computers could be programmed to undergo the same processes as human memory.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They may be able to recall events, but they will be missing the emotional and sensorial aspects of the memory.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For me sometimes the strongest and most powerful memories are those brought on suddenly by a smell or sound that I have not experienced in a long time.&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-3530873137284696731?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/3530873137284696731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=3530873137284696731' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/3530873137284696731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/3530873137284696731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/i-thought-that-most-interesting-part-of.html' title=''/><author><name>Bailey Lynn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09363954278787418127</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-4827388492159626101</id><published>2007-09-18T17:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-18T17:12:06.199-07:00</updated><title type='text'>September 19th Blog</title><content type='html'>I was also very interested in the comparions made between the human memory and computers. I would agree that emotion and feeling are what separate the two. Some people remember events purely by what was going on emotionaly. This is something computers will never accomplish.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 'whys' of many of the issues with memory are what I went over the most. Bourtchouladze's recount of Ebbinghaus' curve of forgetting caught my attention. I'm sure the question of why we remember the things we do, will arise often. However, I would tend to disagree that the good memories are what stand out. The majority of my childhood memories are traumatic events. It tends to be the memories of overwhelming moments that last, and those tend to be the painful. When we fell down the stairs and had to get stitches, or broke a bone, etc. I can't count the times I've sat around with friends telling "horror" stories from our childhoods, where this scar came from, or how badly we had the chicken pox. But maybe that's just me?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-4827388492159626101?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/4827388492159626101/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=4827388492159626101' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4827388492159626101'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/4827388492159626101'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/september-19th-blog.html' title='September 19th Blog'/><author><name>jlong</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13413426202851557566</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-7072624720470145129</id><published>2007-09-18T14:23:00.002-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-18T14:44:42.986-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Blog for 9/19/07</title><content type='html'>Something I found very interesting in the beginning of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Memories Are Made of This&lt;/span&gt; was the story with Theuth and Thamos. The whole point of the story is that writing "is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence"(pg. 2 Bourtchouladze).  And later on goes on to talk about Socrates and how how he basically says writing weakens the mind. I thought about this and at first I thought this wasn't true at all and very extreme. But, the more I thought about it the more I realized we've become dependent on writing and the individual memory is not crucial to our society anymore.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-7072624720470145129?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/7072624720470145129/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=7072624720470145129' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/7072624720470145129'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/7072624720470145129'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/blog-for-91907.html' title='Blog for 9/19/07'/><author><name>Quinci</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13324501630395372596</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-2313539078176055245</id><published>2007-09-18T05:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-18T06:17:19.458-07:00</updated><title type='text'>finally getting my post in [Sept 19th]</title><content type='html'>note:  sorry my post is so late.  i did not notice the email about it on sunday, and tried to get on to the blog via the website.  Then yesterday i saw the email but it would not let me log on - kept on telling me that my password was wrong [i put it in like 15 times, changed my password, copy pasted the code... nothing worked].  Then after that, right before i fell asleep i tried again and this time used my personal email address [which is on gmail] and it worked, but i was way too tired to submit a post [but now i will].  As a funny side note, i started to doubt my memory when it kept on telling me my password was wrong =P&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;POST for Sept 19&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    One of the themes that came to me in the reading is that we [mankind] seem to know very little about memory and how it functions.  Personally, i am not especially disturbed by the lack of knowledge in this particular area, however, after reading Neisser's speech on the failings of memory research, i thought about why it is we don't know more.   Neisser argues that the biggest hurdle is that scientist are not willing to study what is interesting in the field of memory research, and he brings up certain examples as well as his own significant bias.  What seems to be the overarching problem with Neisser's argument is that he faults neuro-psychologists and neuro-biologists for not being social psychologists.  He seems deeply interested in the study of people for who they are [like the ability of a lawyer to remember previous court cases], as opposed to the study of people for their biological and more general characteristics.  He does mention of course that a general study of memory has proven inadequate in explaining the phenomenon of memory, but i do not find that he makes a compelling arugement for a better method.  In fact it seems to me that he spends time talking about how it would so 'interesting' to research how people are able to perform "literal recall" of things like the bible or of pages of prose that they enjoy.  While i would also be very interested in reading a report on that kind of research, i don't understand how it is supposed to explain the mystery of memory to us.  It seems to me that what it will do is provide us with phenomenon, something that we can point to and say "that is true", or "this is what happens", but we will not be able to say "people can memorize it because...", or "this is possible thanks to the interaction between ....".  Or in other words, our understanding will not necessarily increase.  From my limited education on specific memory research, it sounds as though we [scientist everywhere] are simply stumped.  Neisser's point of social-psych research being the holy grail for memory research seems like a big reach to me, although as i said before, i would love to read the results on said studies, and we may just get lucky and score some kind of amazing correlation.&lt;br /&gt;My question to pose to the class would be:  how much of the general memory research results were obvious to you [the results that the 3rd graders knew], and do you think that if you spent time seriously pondering about it [without large scale experiments] you could gleam more knowledge on the subject?  Would there be a limit or an endpoint to what you could gleam?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-2313539078176055245?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/2313539078176055245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=2313539078176055245' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2313539078176055245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/2313539078176055245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/finally-getting-my-post-in-sept-19th.html' title='finally getting my post in [Sept 19th]'/><author><name>geoffrey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00413045543815992231</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1808625257515404868</id><published>2007-09-17T22:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T22:35:11.564-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thought Piece, Week 1</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Tasnim&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Azad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thought Piece on Reading Assignments for 9/19&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  Regarding his speech at the “Practical Aspects of Memory” conference, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Neisser&lt;/span&gt;’s intention is to inspire his contemporaries to reconsider already asked questions in new directions, but I feel that changes in the way memory is studied were already in motion. The fact that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Neisser&lt;/span&gt; gave this speech at such a conference makes a prediction about the amount of energy that would be spent on the field in the coming years.  But still, I agree with &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Bourtchouladze&lt;/span&gt; in his comment that despite tremendous advances in studying the enigma that is memory, we are in some ways still as lost as the ancient Greeks.  After reading these two works first, I was relieved to receive some clarification and uncover more interesting questions in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Schacter&lt;/span&gt;’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Searching for Memory&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Schacter&lt;/span&gt;’s introduction and opening chapters struck me because they made points that were obvious, but I had never considered them of great importance.  Of course, we utilize memory constantly. How else would we be able to recall our own names or the hundreds of names and faces stored in our brains? Or remember how to turn on a computer and access a variety of programs and files without pause? By acknowledging some simple truths about how memory is used, I believe we can more easily move forward with important questions.  I also appreciated the exercises &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Schacter&lt;/span&gt; suggests to readers in order to test our own memories and realize its limits and potential.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  Some questions that I had in mind while reading were in regard to the specific cases &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Schacter&lt;/span&gt; describes.  I have read works of fiction and seen episodes of Law and Order: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;" class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;SVU&lt;/span&gt; where a victim of sexual abuse will discover repressed memories deep in his or her mind when interrogated the right way or when facing a similar event. For whatever reason, I never doubted that this was possible. Can some part of our subconscious really take control and block out memories too painful for our minds to handle? Why is it a common idea that we tend to remember the good memories rather than the negative when we think back to a period of time, such as high school or past relationships? Could this repression of certain traumatic memories be similar to the way our bodies physically heal wounds? In addition, the story of the Italian man known as GR has left me to wonder if such cases could have a standard treatment. Could any physically taxing experience reignite damaged regions of our brains?  Finally, when discussing people who have committed greats works of considerable length to memory, such as the Koran or Shakespeare’s sonnets, what role, if any, do patterns and the mathematical significance of these works have in mastering them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Sorry for the late post; while checking for responses, I realized I hadn't posted it properly the first time around.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1808625257515404868?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1808625257515404868/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1808625257515404868' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1808625257515404868'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1808625257515404868'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/thought-piece-week-1.html' title='Thought Piece, Week 1'/><author><name>Tasnim Azad</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10762761881854617598</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8886690828728384982</id><published>2007-09-17T16:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T16:04:14.554-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Blog #1</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;Both Schacter and James devote a great deal of time to examining the importance of placing oneself in a memory in order for it to be fully and accurately recalled. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The more we associate all those random things we’re supposed to remember with facts or places that are important to us, the more likely we are to remember them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As Bourtchouladze points out, the ancient Greeks and Romans, out of necessity, had these tactics down to a science.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Chapter two in Schacter’s book focuses on this idea.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He discusses different techniques for remembering everything from strings of numbers or lists of words to events from our daily lives.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Over and over, the theme of associating the new information with things that we already know and remember comes up.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;His explanation of the Museum Test particularly resonated with me and it was so fascinating to see what people with different connections to art and art history remembered about the painting.&lt;span style=""&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;I share Neisser’s frustration with the extent to which psychology has ignored the more practical and natural questions of memory.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why is it that I can remember all the lyrics to full length musicals but had a terrible time remembering what quotation came from which book during my high school English exam?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;On the other hand, these topics, upon further reflection, seem so multi-faceted and complex that one would hardly know where to begin investigating them.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Perhaps exploration of the neuroscience of memory systems is a good way to get a handle on these difficult questions.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If we know how a memory is stored, then we can begin to ask why it is remembered and how it is forgotten.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Having said this, the amount of information and the accuracy of the information in James’ article, written in 1890, suggests that modern research has done little more than confirm and elaborate on what has been known for a while.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We know more about the anatomy of the brain now than we did in 1890 but it does seem that modern psychologists have done little to significantly advance our understanding of how memory works.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;I would disagree that computers will ever be able to think or interpret to the depth the humans are able to.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Computers may have a larger memory capacity but I feel like personality and emotion have a great deal to do with what we remember and why we remember certain things.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There’s no code for emotion and computers can’t always interpret context, to figure out what’s important and what’s not.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;AI can do a lot but I don’t believe that it will ever be able to associate emotion with all the information it is capable of “remembering”.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I would cite Schacter’s museum test as an example.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yes, a computer that had “seen” the painting would be able to recall what it looked like far more accurately than most humans, but would it be able to describe any emotions that the painting evoked?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Would a computer be able to interpret the painting like subject #3 did?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;Some questions.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How do we go about exploring the more basic questions of memory?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Are the capacities to feel emotion and interpret context necessary for understanding memories?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8886690828728384982?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8886690828728384982/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8886690828728384982' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8886690828728384982'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8886690828728384982'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/blog-1.html' title='Blog #1'/><author><name>Stephanie A</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13390658840960154243</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-8343958276159173782</id><published>2007-09-16T23:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-16T23:34:39.999-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Blog Thought Piece #1&lt;br /&gt;For September 19, 2007’s class&lt;br /&gt;By Annie James&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    My prominent broad ascertainment of this particular essay of James’ is that one of the aspects of the concept of memory that essentially renders it a “phenomenon” is the fact that, though memory is more or less the absolute most important component of our abilities to live and function as human beings in every conceivable worldly context (“…just about everything we do or say depends on the smooth and efficient operation of our memory systems.” [Schacter, p. 2]), there is an extremely significant amount of aspects of it over which we seem to have literally no control. And this lack of control can manifest itself in a variety (and a contrasting one, at that) of ways. A very intuitive and almost superficial way of conceptualizing what memories are consists of thinking of them as things that must be consciously “created”, so to speak; we memorize facts and materials for a test, or directions to a certain place, or lines for a play. But as can be clearly derived from each piece of this week’s reading, and of course from the general knowledge of memory as a whole, this type of memory constitutes an extremely small portion of the entirety of the human memory system. Most of the things we remember are not only not created in this way, but are created with no conscious effort whatsoever. This fact holds true on the other hand as well, in terms of forgetting; we can hold thoughts, ideas and concepts in our working memory in the in the most efficient ways for just the amount of time that we need them to perform a given task, and then completely forget them for the rest of our lives because we have nothing concrete and/or personal to use as an “association” (discussed at length by James throughout the essay) by which to retrieve that memory. The outcome of the task facilitated by that working memory process is literally the only evidence that the thoughts, ideas or concepts contributing to it even happened at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    James discusses the idea of a person being able to remember an event to which they paid no conscious attention by using the example of someone being aware of the fact that another person in his field of sight has changed his/her location in a room whilst the first person was only paying conscious attention to the assigned task of counting the lines of text on a piece of paper. (Paragraph 7, section 2, quoted from Exner) This memory, though seemingly inconsequential, is one of the key aspects behind memory rendering itself a phenomenon because no conscious or even explicable effort was made to hold that memory. Further along in James’ essay, he discusses the condition of aphasia – the inexplicable loss of word memory and ability to express oneself through speech. (Paragraph 15, section 8) Once someone is fluent, per se, in any language, it is the general and logically assumed result of this that the speaker does not have to make a conscious effort to remember the applicable grammar, vocabulary, etc. to form sentences and communicate with others. It is actually most disconcerting that the loss of this virtually essential functional ability is, in the condition of aphasia and related others, completely outside of our control, especially in the sense that, in general, the things that we do in fact make a conscious effort to remember are of radically less importance than those that we don’t; would you rather forget the route to your best friend’s house or forget how to have a conversation with your best friend (or everyone, for that matter)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    On the same note, and lending itself more to comparative discussion, is James’ discussion of the extremely complex process by which anything must officially enter the “memory proper”. He gives the example of a person seeing Mevius in first a temple and then in Titus’ house, and goes on to explain that although the person is perceiving Mevius in their working memory as being in Titus’ house (the current location), he/she actually recognizes Mevius by recalling the memory of the first time that he/she met Mevius – in the aforementioned temple. (Paragraph 8, section 3, quoted from Wolff) This is a perfect example of the phenomenal “double effect” of memory, in that even though a person is appropriately perceiving a given person in the present context, he/she is using the context of an episodic memory of a completely different time and place, with the only associative similarity being the presence of the other person, to identify the person and recall the information necessary to interact with that person. From this we can look more deeply into Schacter’s discussion of the distinction between episodic and semantic memory (p. 17). It is clear and logical that there is a distinction between the way that we remember facts about a certain place or person (semantic) and the way that we remember the first time we ever met that person (episodic), but then the question is: When does an episodic memory essentially become, or at least lend parts of itself to create, a semantic memory?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    For if we contemplate our knowledge of memory, this transition is almost always, if not always, absolutely necessary in the formation of a semantic memory; it is likely that a person will not remember the very first time he/she was taught the alphabet or how to do arithmetic, but that particular episodic memory, even if it does not exist presently, certainly existed once, because it was obviously the initial foundation on which that person began to learn those basic skills. Even in the case that something that would be an episodic memory becomes, due to an insufficient duration of the time during which the episode was experienced, nothing but experiencing a “state of mind which is shut up to its own moment” (paragraph 2, section 2) and that never actually enters the memory proper, such as feeling “acute and intense” (paragraph 3, section 2, quoted from Richet) pain for no more than a hundredth of a second, we cannot ever say for certain whether or not that state of mind simply left our memory completely and forever, or whether it is retained, entirely dormant, in some part of the physical nerve-tissue and will go on to “at its own moment determine the transition of our thinking in a vital way, and decide our action irrevocably.” (Paragraph 4, section 2) And if this were the case, we would of course have no knowledge of it. So, is it repetition of and/or continuous training in or conscious exposure to something that facilitates an episodic memory becoming, or becoming a component of, a semantic memory? Possibly. But have we not just seen that even the smallest, shortest, most transient states of consciousness have the potential to directly affect a part of the memory that is consciously and vividly retained?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Let’s say for argument's sake that one of the first times that a child took a test in multiplication, the one mistake that he/she made was forgetting to write the respective “zeros” when multiplying the first number by the digits in tens, hundreds, thousands (and so on) places of the second number. This mistake would have of course resulted in him/her getting the answer wrong, and he/she would then presumably receive an explanation from his/her teacher of why it was a wrong answer and how to obtain a correct one in the future. Even though the moment of disappointment the mental correction of a minor procedural fallacy would probably not be remembered explicitly, if at all, by the child in the future, it is very likely that, each time that the child did handwritten multiplication in the future, he/she would make an extra effort, even if an unconscious one, to check for that mistake that he/she made the first time around. He/she would also be able to tell you “offhand”, so to speak, that that is a necessary step in multiplication. From this we see that both semantic and procedural memory can be affected by nothing more than a fleeting instant. So what exactly is involved in that transition period? And why, when it involves something on which we put so much conscious effort to remember, is the process by which the brain forms that memory almost completely out of our control?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple questions for class, since my response to just those two sources was pretty lengthy…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.    Do you think that people actually had better memories in the ancient times when events and ideas were never, or rarely, documented in writing and only stored, by various and elaborate mechanisms, in the brain itself? If so, do you think the changing environment and culture over that time span or the passing-on psychological genetics (“nurture or nature”) is a more prominent factor in it? (Bourtchouladze)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.    Do you think that emotion has enough of an impact on human memory to render the results of experiments with animal memory systems unable to be logically applied to our knowledge of the human memory, even though certain physical similarities have been identified? (Neisser)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-8343958276159173782?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/8343958276159173782/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=8343958276159173782' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8343958276159173782'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/8343958276159173782'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/blog-thought-piece-1-for-september-19.html' title=''/><author><name>Annie Alden James</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12422941886935256165</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-1518728814099565017</id><published>2007-09-16T18:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-16T18:52:51.390-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thought piece 9-16-07 --or, I finally figured out this blog thing!</title><content type='html'>William James has written a huge chapter that seems to have been quite  a comprehensive study of memory research up to the time of his writing it, and he puts together a pretty clear framework through which to view memory.  He first discusses primary memory, which is a sort of short-term memory of something we have just experienced, and it has not yet left our consciousness.  James, with his term primary memory, seems to be describing the human experience of the present—the eternally transient moment of perception, the “eternal now,” the collection of just-passed experiences still held in consciousness.  The things we are aware of in our primary memory make up our current conception of the immediate present.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   After something leaves our primary memory, it must be recalled by our secondary memory to be experienced again; and according to James, “substantive... states of mind” are far more likely to be able to be recalled.  That is, those states of mind attended to for longer periods of time, in which the rememberer thinks more about his experiences and associates with it more already-retained memories and schemata, will be easier to be remembered.  James, very interestingly introduces the idea of consciousness into the process of remembering: if an event is to be truly remembered, the rememberer must wholeheartedly believe that this event happened to &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;him&lt;/span&gt;, to his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;self&lt;/span&gt;, in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;his own&lt;/span&gt; past.  Schacter's very human approach to discussing memory latches on firmly to this conscious and active placement of one's self  (or one's past self, depending on one's metaphysical beliefs) in the past situation from which the memory was made.  I have some personal reservations about jumping onto the bandwagon of saying true memories must necessarily contain an element of conscious recollection; but I will decline to further comment until I understand further theories connected to implicit memory.  I also wish to much explore sorts of seemingly unconscious muscle memory—“just like riding a bike!”&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   James also spends a good deal of time on forgetting, much more than some of the other authors we've read for today who mention it.  I like his idea of selection and how an overload of memories—such as the ability to remember everything all the time—would be just as difficult to deal with as remembering nothing at all.  This phenomenon, I believe, is mirrored in the way we perceive exterior stimuli, as Aldous Huxley explores in his “The Doors of Perception.”  Evolutionarily, we have had to train ourselves to select the most important things to perceive and to remember.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   Neisser spoke about this phenomenon, “the superiority of meaningful material,” in his damning article, calling it an easy empirical generalization, which is obvious to most kindergarteners.  He goes through many of James' findings and dismisses them in this way.  He accuses most memory research of having too little to do with “what happens in the real world.”  I noticed this Lab vs. Life problem in most of the studies cited in this weeks readings and was very happy when Neisser pointed out this glaring catch.  I assume much of our semester in this class will be focused on finding ways around the problem of gathering reliable data that pertains to our everyday lives.  He poses many questions which will keep us plenty busy until Christmas.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   I feel that Schacter begins to deal with some of these in creative ways.  Both on the page before the table of contents and on the second page of the introduction, we find the quote, “Memory is life.”  His first two chapters are filled with memory's connection to the sense of self, personal identity, and self-empowering notions such as “mental time travel.”  While laying his framework through which to discuss memory, he uses works of art, I believe, to try to bridge the gap between scientific data and quotidian experience.  If nothing else, his discussions of art can be useful, like a metaphor or simile, to help create another image or association, or another perspective to access the data and theories he brings to the table.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;   I'd also like to say that I side with those cognitive scientists who believe that computers have the potential to mimic human minds and memories.  We simply don't have enough information about human behavior; and the computer that can do this may very well take up the space of several continents.  But we're working on mapping the human genome, so how can one say it's impossible to map out human memory patterns.  And let's face it, that Ridley Scott film is really convincing!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   So: How well do Schactel and Bourtchouladze do at answering Neisser's questions?  Do we really have no more to say about memory than the ancient Greeks?  Does James' framework hold up against modern memory research findings?  How can we find worthwhile research results that pertain to our everyday lives?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-1518728814099565017?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/1518728814099565017/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=1518728814099565017' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1518728814099565017'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/1518728814099565017'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/thought-piece-9-16-07-or-i-finally.html' title='Thought piece 9-16-07 --or, I finally figured out this blog thing!'/><author><name>Cory Antiel</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10873597510179514332</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8646899387558178856.post-3322245618805771168</id><published>2007-09-16T18:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-16T18:17:08.591-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I can't access any links on the class website...</title><content type='html'>...except for the "Syllabus" one... They just don't work...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are they working for anyone else?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have reading on there, don't we?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8646899387558178856-3322245618805771168?l=memory07.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/feeds/3322245618805771168/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8646899387558178856&amp;postID=3322245618805771168' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/3322245618805771168'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8646899387558178856/posts/default/3322245618805771168'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://memory07.blogspot.com/2007/09/i-cant-access-any-links-on-class.html' title='I can&apos;t access any links on the class website...'/><author><name>Annie Alden James</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12422941886935256165</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry></feed>
